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    (Original post by Deadfish41)
    how comes herts are changing to maya? thats definately a good thing i think, as maya seems to be more commonly used in industry at the studios i've visited in london.
    Yeah, it definitely is - the thought process though was that Max is a more all-round, complete product, and doesn't require all the bespoke software or plugins that the big studios (and little ones) use in Maya - it can do everything well, even if it can't do some things AS well as Maya (or anything, if you include maya + plugins). Obviously in Industry this isn't a problem, but with film creation being such a big part of the degree, it was until now the software of choice over Maya.

    They've changed because of the VFX course. The VFX guys don't have to make fully rendered films, and the entire VFX industry uses Maya, so there'd be no point learning Max. The leccys then decided that it wasn't feasable to run two parallel sets of lectures on Max and Maya when the courses are meant to share a first year (and we don't have the man-power to effectively double the number of lectures) so they just decided to go for it and teach everyone Maya.
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    (Original post by DanGrover)
    Yeah, it definitely is - the thought process though was that Max is a more all-round, complete product, and doesn't require all the bespoke software or plugins that the big studios (and little ones) use in Maya - it can do everything well, even if it can't do some things AS well as Maya (or anything, if you include maya + plugins). Obviously in Industry this isn't a problem, but with film creation being such a big part of the degree, it was until now the software of choice over Maya.

    They've changed because of the VFX course. The VFX guys don't have to make fully rendered films, and the entire VFX industry uses Maya, so there'd be no point learning Max. The leccys then decided that it wasn't feasable to run two parallel sets of lectures on Max and Maya when the courses are meant to share a first year (and we don't have the man-power to effectively double the number of lectures) so they just decided to go for it and teach everyone Maya.
    @DanGrover

    Thanks i knew they were doing s VFX course this year, but i didn't know they switch to maya i think thats gonna be the decider for me, as a maya user myself. When i spoke to one of the lecturers (i think it was the 2D guy) he said he used lightwave?? Which if anyone here has ever used is really different from maya and max, and much more complicated
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    (Original post by Con:)
    @DanGrover

    Thanks i knew they were doing s VFX course this year, but i didn't know they switch to maya i think thats gonna be the decider for me, as a maya user myself. When i spoke to one of the lecturers (i think it was the 2D guy) he said he used lightwave?? Which if anyone here has ever used is really different from maya and max, and much more complicated
    Wow. I have no idea what he's talking about, to be honest. The 2D guys do get some 3D lessons (it's useful for backgrounds for perspective, as well as if you want a bit more control in compositing than what AE allows) and they've always used 3dsm - though I assume now they'll start learning Maya along with the others.
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    Just set my Accomo for Herts,
    1st Telford Court
    2nd de Hav
    3rd Butler

    Also i get a scholarship thing because of my new portfolio work
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    A question for people who have started Computer Animation at Bournemouth::
    Do you need a memory stick? If so, what size?

    Thanks
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    Heh, I'd say most degrees in the country need a memory stick mate!

    I'm at Herts, but really, a portable hard drive is more useful. When you start getting some detailed scenes with quite a few objects in it, a bunch of uncompressed textures and video and whatnot, you're going to want more than the 4gb or 8gb a pen drive will afford you. I mean, get a pen drive too for when you don't need the extra space (Portable hard disks, especially 3.5" ones, are hardly put-in-your-pocket), but you can get 500GB externals for like £55 or so. It's a worthwhile investment for sure.

    And It's great for sharing porn.
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    heh

    Im not really expecting to take back any large files as i dont have any suitable workstation to use apart from what the uni gives us, my laptop would be almost useless. If i needed to transport a big file then my MP3 would probly do, or i could take my external
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    I thought the Computers at Bournemouth used Linux OS? So i wasn't sure if files i do in lessons would only be kept on their PC's, but would they have enough storage on their systems or is that where an external hard drive would be needed?
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    At Herts we have a very limited ammount of networked storage space - about 200mb. This is everyone in the university, so it's meant for people just making powerpoints and word documents (this is accessable from anywhere with an internet connection, not just at uni). Our leccys have constantly been on at them about how we need more (a 4 second shot at 720p with 5 passes [say key light, bounce light, ambient occlusion, z-depth and any other effects on top like fire] can easily be a few GB's when stored as lossless image sequences).

    As such, we're strongly encouraged to use external storage. Typically on our machines there are two hard drives (or two partitions at least, but I think it's the former, two separate drives) - one has the OS and My Docs on (the My Docs folder being your networked storage folder), with all data being reset when you reboot (so if you save something on the desktop or anywhere on C:\, it'll be gone when you restarty). The 2nd one has all the programmes stored on it, and that one doesn't automatically delete everything, so that's good for if you need to reboot for whatever reason, but you're not meant to leave stuff on there overnight or anything. Basically, if the drive starts getting full, the technicians will just delete any renders or whatever on there without question.

    So basicallllly I'd strongly advise you get a portable hard disk. They're useful even if they aren't 100% neccessary (though at Herts, frankly, they are). I can't speak for Bournemouth, mind, but given how much space raw renders take up, I'd be amazed if you were given enough storage for you to ever need.
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    Holy shizzle thats terrible. It doesnt cost £90 for a terrabyte of storage, im sure with all the unis funds they can afford that :/. Whack a few of those in and youv got enough for everyone.
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    (Original post by tomdrum6)
    Holy shizzle thats terrible. It doesnt cost £90 for a terrabyte of storage, im sure with all the unis funds they can afford that :/. Whack a few of those in and youv got enough for everyone.
    Yeah, but I suppose it's not just that, is it? They need to keep them running all the time, they need to keep them maintained, they'd then be totally responsible for keeping all your work safe - and they'd need to pay someone to do this. I think the 2nd last point is a big one. On our course they say outright that hardware malfunction isn't an excuse for coursework lateness. Just backup.

    Plus, most people need to do work at home anyway. In fact, if you ever have to make a short film, I can assure you, that the 9am-9pm lab-opening times won't be enought!
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    In computing, you are only as good as your backup so it's imperative that you buy an external USB and/or Firewire hard drive for storing all of your work on. The current price of a large external hard represents a neglible investment given that you would be use it to store files that are ultimately worth far more than what you paid for the drive.

    Depending on your instiution, it's not essential to have a computer at home but it sure does help. It also helps to learn industry standard applications which you can buy at much discounted rates.

    You can be forgiven (just about) for not the hardware/software you are learning on, however, no lecturer will forgive you for handing in late work due loss of work. Also, no future employer will forgive you for losing your portfolio. Buy the hard disk!
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    Thanks DanGrover, that's really helped me out
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    (Original post by Welshboyomon)
    Thanks DanGrover, that's really helped me out
    just go to ebuyer and order one you can get a 650gb-1tb for around £60 and thats just ebuyer, on ebay they go for cheaper too
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    I've already got one... Got the 500gb like DanGove said too...
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    Sunderland is apparently the best in the country for its animation courses.
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    (Original post by jarralisa)
    Sunderland is apparently the best in the country for its animation courses.
    Nope not even in the top 10 in my book, but what Ive found over the past year of searching for the best course that it is personal preference. Sunderland is more for the traditional animator model making, and getting the fundamentals down. I did look at the course and it didn't look very well developed, or current with the latest techniques. So the course wasn't right for, but if you are interested in stop motion and cell based animation then have a look in. But no not one of the best courses a lot better out there just have a look around/ :yep:
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    Thats just what i got told of my teacher
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    Hi Con,
    I just think you think you already know everything.
    Just get some experience in the real world pls and then talk.
    Best wishes.
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    (Original post by FIVE)
    Hi Con,
    I just think you think you already know everything.
    Just get some experience in the real world pls and then talk.
    Best wishes.
    Well he's just started on the course. He's entirely entitled to his opinion, even if it would be bolstered by more years on this planet, though it's hardly something he can help.

    For what it's worth though, I'm now in my final year of my BA in Animation, I've been to a lot of animation festivals with student work in it, and until that person above posted, I didn't even know Sunderland did an animation course until jarralisa mentioned it, so I certainly think Con's right on that aspect. Until you can come up with reasons why he's wrong, I think we'd all appreciated it if you kept your unhelpful, patronising snarls out of the thread.
 
 
 
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