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    Yes Ezekiel Communism is DEAD!
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    No Ezekiel Communism is not DEAD!
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    Is Communism Dead? Discuss.
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    What is, "What form of government does the worlds most populated nation in the world have?"

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    (Original post by Rusty33)
    What is, "What form of government does the worlds most populated nation in the world have?"

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    Well it’s China but its not really growing is it? Socialism seems to be the new Communism the new alternative,
    The Third Way.
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    Yep, common sense has prevailed
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    (Original post by Ezekiel)
    Well it’s China but its not really growing is it? Socialism seems to be the new Communism the new alternative,
    The Third Way.
    China is growing at a larger rate, in more than one faccet, than any Socialist nation in the world.
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    (Original post by Rusty33)
    China is growing at a larger rate, in more than one faccet, than any Socialist nation in the world.
    But China isn't really communist anyway.
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    Communism dead? HAHA!

    As Rusty said, look at China. Nearly as powerful as the USA.
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    Communism is not dead. Look at Fidel Castro in Cuba, Kim Jong-il in Korea.Both are dictators with communist principles. China is also pretty much communist as well.

    You must be really ignorant if you think it's dead. As long as someone somewhere, believes in Communist principles or other extreme political views. Those schemes will never die. Fascism for instance is still happening. Pro - Nazis keep it going. It's really stupid to think these political systems are dead, just because they aren't obvious to us at all the time.

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    It depends how you're defining it. Nothing it stopping you from starting a commune or a kibbutz with a few like minded people.
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    Lets not forget that both China is essentially an authoritarian capitalist state and that NK is communofacist. For me Cuba and Venzuela are the closest thing to communist and that's because they are proper socialist. I'd say pure communism is dead as a nation-state ideology although as JoD points out it could be applied on a scale smaller than that of the state.
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    Communism is dead and buried (if you can kill an abstract ideology), even China has admitted they need to embrace capitalism. Admittedly they are assuring their people that "it's only temporary". However, if the government decide to get rid of it and the new middle classes agree, without the use of force or intimidation, I will eat my car and my PC.

    Socialism isn't dead but it's certainly going the way of the Dodo. There are still plenty of people who call themselves socialist but hardly any of them really are. It's more to avoid being called "right wing", even though those same people seemingly have no idea what "right wing" actually means.
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    Communism was never alive to begin with, "communism" is still around though.
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    I'm not certain how to vote, really. Nations and persons claiming to be Communist are certainly alive and well, but Communism itself effectively died in 1917. So the answer is both yes and no, depending on what the question meant.

    EDIT: Yes, what t_m_l said.
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    it is practically dead, but only because it occurred too early. Capitalism will have its day but probably by the end of this century i think communism will return. I think a capitalist world works ok for now but for a long term human future we will eventually have to become united and share things out of necessity. Climate change and the energy crisis are two issues that i think will ultimately forces us in that direction.

    In short, this is just a gut-feeling. I think the stalinst type of communism is certainly dead but that capiatalism equally cannot go on too much longer.
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    Communism is good.
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    quite sadly I would have to say that communism is not dead. In a national sense, it was never around to begin with- a pre condition for the communist society is all law, order and common sense is abolished and people revert to savage and uncivilised ways, abandoning all trade and just working for no apparent reason. So to say that any nation which the communist party controls is a communist nation is simply a mis interpretation, according to the communist manifesto these wicked and tyranical governments (such as castro's, Lenins and Kim-Jong il) will oversee the destruction of law and order via brutal dictatorship. So evidently there has not been a communist system since before civilisation. However the fact that there has never been a communist system does not mean the ideology is dead- these people are planning to sack parliament, and can be seen on the streets of london regualry distributing their foul scaremongering propoganda. Communism as an ideology is not dead, but luckily the communists that still linger around have hd their power broken and they will never be able to achieve their macarbe plots.
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    (Original post by Thud)
    funny you should mention that, wanna come to our leaflet giving out session at 12?

    There hasn't been a communist society yet for the simple reason that communism can only be put into place once capitalism has run its course. Capitalism has not run its course yet, it hadn't run its course in 1917. Through out history we have had a series of stages marked by a level in the economy, each one of these eventually destroys itself through the seed of contradiction which are placed inside it from the beginning. Out of the ruins of the former system a new system grows, at the moment the system is capitalism which is still growing but when it reaches its climax, it too, like each system before it, will be destroyed by internal contradictions, resulting in revolution by the proletariat and the birth of actual communism.
    Where is your propoganda session? Talking about society destroying itself natrualy, aren't you talking like a menshivick comrade
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    Practically, yes. Intellectually, no.
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    (Original post by Zebedee)
    it is practically dead, but only because it occurred too early. Capitalism will have its day but probably by the end of this century i think communism will return. I think a capitalist world works ok for now but for a long term human future we will eventually have to become united and share things out of necessity. Climate change and the energy crisis are two issues that i think will ultimately forces us in that direction.

    In short, this is just a gut-feeling. I think the stalinst type of communism is certainly dead but that capiatalism equally cannot go on too much longer.
    Considering that capitalism is the default method of human organisation, I would have to say that you are wrong. There has never been an ideology that has been able to get away from capitalism, all eventually revert back however hard they try.

    Saying that, pure capitalism (i.e. something like anarcho-capitalism) doesn't work in the same way that communism doesn't work, it's theoretical.
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    Capitalism as default method of human organisation? That's an interesting idea. Care to explain further? Because I didn't think it really existed on anything like the large, mass-organisational scale we know today until feudalism started to fall apart.
 
 
 
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