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    Yes Ezekiel Communism is DEAD!
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    No Ezekiel Communism is not DEAD!
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    Most of what marx had a problem with in Europe has been and gone... the Welfare State has seen to it, and all of this is sustained and well being increased through the magical power of capitalism.
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    (Original post by Lawz-)
    Marx commenting on human nature and psychology is like me commenting on gynecology. He was neither trained nor especially experienced in either.
    Indeed, you're both Lawyers.
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    Yeah but I have a job ... he was a bit of a Loser...
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    (Original post by Ephemeral_1)
    unfortunately my shelves aren't overflowing with Marxist literature though I do have the communist manifesto from my days as a supporter of communism I can't rememebr the manifesto saying much about human nature perhaps it was an assumption on my part. Where can I alleviate my philistism?
    Marx's "Thesis on Feuerbach" and "Economic & Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844".
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    (Original post by Thud)
    There aren't communists in the NUS, I already agreed with you about them.

    why don't you understand that the current system is unable to give us anything other than this bourgeois "democracy"?



    because it's unable to! I have explained, it's the wrong tool for the job, it leads to corruption and reenforces the class basis in society.
    Actually, you haven't explained anything. You just keep repeating yourself. Explain why the system isn't the right tool (without rhetoric or catch-phrases) and what the right tool would be. Otherwise we will all stay in the dark....apparently.
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    Do not misqoute me i said, 'I sure don't see one not one which relates to Marxism anyway', not just i sure don't see one. VAST difference. Marxist theories on class were barely relevant in the age in which they were concieved and now they've been exposed as palpable rubbish. Deal with it, rather than judging someone (might I add incorrectly) on an inetrnet forum who you do not know on the basis of one misqouted sentance.
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    Yep, Capitalism triumph over Communism. Good thing too, a nice theory on paper but didn't work out well when implemented.
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    This argument has run its course, and Rocky beat Ivan Drago this time.
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110401124.html

    The revolution is upon us. :eek:
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    Sorry haven't read through this thread, but to me Communism in its true sense has been dead since the Russian Revolution.
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110401124.html

    The revolution is upon us. :eek:
    lol, he can try, but it's America: he hasn't got a chance.



    just one thing is confusing:
    "Look," Sanders says, "you can't be afraid of the people [pronounced: pee-PULL]."

    how else do you pronounce people? :confused:
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110401124.html

    The revolution is upon us. :eek:
    vermont ftw.
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    (Original post by Thud)
    just one thing is confusing:
    "Look," Sanders says, "you can't be afraid of the people [pronounced: pee-PULL]."

    how else do you pronounce people? :confused:
    PEE-pull. Stressing the wrong syllable? Sounds a bit like Michael Howard and his 'pipple', probably comes from saying the word so many times that they forget how to pronounce it. Unless, of course, he's secretly a Russian spy with a near-perfect accent...

    He doesn't seem so scary and seems to be in with a decent chance. Bit of good news from the States for a change.
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    The only difference heralded by that story is that an American has, for the first time, not misused the term "liberal" when he actually meant "socialist".
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    (Original post by Thud)
    lol, he can try, but it's America: he hasn't got a chance.



    just one thing is confusing:
    "Look," Sanders says, "you can't be afraid of the people [pronounced: pee-PULL]."

    how else do you pronounce people? :confused:
    Read the article. He's up by 20-25%.

    PEE-puhl? :confused:
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    Is he going to be elected?

    God bless America.

    Have you seen Borat yet Biz?
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    (Original post by Carl)
    Is he going to be elected?

    God bless America.

    Have you seen Borat yet Biz?
    When you're up by 20-25% two days before an election, the general consensus would be yes.

    I think (hope) it's just Vermont. They always have "independents" representing them.

    According to some of my friends, the tickets were sold out for the entire weekend in most major theaters. :eek: And there are no movie theaters near me anymore, so I'll have to find someone to go with.
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    www.vermontindependence.com
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    I've put that Communism is dead.

    Although I wholeheartedly believe in the tenets proposed by the founders of Communism, there are no practical communist countries in existence. Nor have there ever been. The Soviets were governed by single 'rulers', to my mind at least that signifies a break with the communist viewpoint. China has been mentioned above also does not really qualify.

    My thoughts at this moment in time seem to suggest that communism will not work with the world in it's current mindset. There is too much external pressure against communism, and for capitalism. The only way that communism will work is for a very small community, that has a small enough population to truely self-govern. I believe that one day communism may be embraced, and will become as widespread as capitalism is today, yet I do not see it happening for some time. I have tried to think of ways to make at least a part of it work, and while some (unimportant) facets would, most create too much bureaucracy, and opportunities to gain power.

    So do I think Communism is dead? Yes, but maybe a better term is that it is in stasis, waiting for a time where the world is ready.

    ukebert

    n.b. If I am wrong about any of this, and you see points that I have missed out, I will reconsider.
 
 
 
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