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So i want to do aerospace engineering (with a focus in spacecraft hopefully) because i want to design and make spacecraft and hopefully one day go to space as a astronaut for the european space agency. (yes big dreams, quite hard to achieve i know) i'm just wondering which activities or clubs are good to do that will look good on my uni application. so basically anything to do with STEM subjects. thank you.
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So i want to do aerospace engineering (with a focus in spacecraft hopefully) because i want to design and make spacecraft and hopefully one day go to space as a astronaut for the european space agency. (yes big dreams, quite hard to achieve i know) i'm just wondering which activities or clubs are good to do that will look good on my uni application. so basically anything to do with STEM subjects. thank you.
When you're in Year 12, Headstart and EES (if your school offers it). When you're in Year 11, apply for an Arkwright Scholarship. Try to get Work Experience with an Engineering company - any Engineering company, you almost certainly won't be able to find work experience with a space engineering company. Read about it, Cambridge has a great reading list on their website.

One thing though - if you become an Engineer, you won't be able to go to Space. Practically all Astronauts were trained in the military. Also at least for the foreseeable future, ESA has no intentions of any exciting manned missions as far as I know.
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When you're in Year 12, Headstart and EES (if your school offers it). When you're in Year 11, apply for an Arkwright Scholarship. Try to get Work Experience with an Engineering company - any Engineering company, you almost certainly won't be able to find work experience with a space engineering company. Read about it, Cambridge has a great reading list on their website.

One thing though - if you become an Engineer, you won't be able to go to Space. Practically all Astronauts were trained in the military. Also at least for the foreseeable future, ESA has no intentions of any exciting manned missions as far as I know.
i know that most astronauts were in the military, this is because being a flight engineer is a task space companies look for, however can't i get a job as a flight engineer and not be in the military? yes i know the ESA don't but can't i always just go to the international space station? or i could move to america, work for nasa?
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When you're in Year 12, Headstart and EES (if your school offers it). When you're in Year 11, apply for an Arkwright Scholarship. Try to get Work Experience with an Engineering company - any Engineering company, you almost certainly won't be able to find work experience with a space engineering company. Read about it, Cambridge has a great reading list on their website.

One thing though - if you become an Engineer, you won't be able to go to Space. Practically all Astronauts were trained in the military. Also at least for the foreseeable future, ESA has no intentions of any exciting manned missions as far as I know.
Untrue, I study aerospace eng and a few days ago a person working for Airbus space and defence came in for a lecture. Companies like this then join forces with ESA, NASA etc, and there are exciting future manned and unmanned projects being planned/designed as I type this!

Anyway, you could apply for a sponsored summer school in engineering at a respected uni, eg personally I did it via Sutton trust. It will make your ps stand out a lot too!

Oh also I have no idea on astronauts and engineering routes into space , if that's what you meant.


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i know that most astronauts were in the military, this is because being a flight engineer is a task space companies look for, however can't i get a job as a flight engineer and not be in the military? yes i know the ESA don't but can't i always just go to the international space station? or i could move to america, work for nasa?
My honest advice for you is don't plan to be an astronaut. Whilst I agree that it would be incredibly cool, the fact of the matter is that your chance of becoming an astronaut is significantly lower than your chance of winning the lottery. I think it'd be a much better idea pursuing a career path you think you'd be happy dedicating your life to than pursuing a career path you'd be less happy about in the vain hope that maybe it'd improve your chance of becoming an astronaut. Who knows, maybe one day you might have the chance - there have been astronauts that weren't in the military, I know that a Geologist was on one of the first space missions, but it's very rare because your physical condition is incredibly important - but you shouldn't plan for it. I think you just need to accept that dreams are dreams and you need to be a little bit more realistic.

Do you genuinely want to go into aerospace engineering? Would you be happy doing it if you knew you could never be an astronaut?

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Untrue, I study aerospace eng and a few days ago a person working for Airbus space and defence came in for a lecture. Companies like this then join forces with ESA, NASA etc, and there are exciting future manned and unmanned projects being planned/designed as I type this!

Anyway, you could apply for a sponsored summer school in engineering at a respected uni, eg personally I did it via Sutton trust. It will make your ps stand out a lot too!


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Some cool unmanned missions, I know (although they're all critically underfunded) - I visited Astrium recently, I'm guessing that's where the person who visited you came from - I didn't know of any tangible manned missions though apart from the usual maintenance of the ISS.
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My honest advice for you is don't plan to be an astronaut. Whilst I agree that it would be incredibly cool, the fact of the matter is that your chance of becoming an astronaut is significantly lower than your chance of winning the lottery. I think it'd be a much better idea pursuing a career path you think you'd be happy dedicating your life to than pursuing a career path you'd be less happy about in the vain hope that maybe it'd improve your chance of becoming an astronaut. Who knows, maybe one day you might have the chance - there have been astronauts that weren't in the military, I know that a Geologist was on one of the first space missions, but it's very rare because your physical condition is incredibly important - but you shouldn't plan for it. I think you just need to accept that dreams are dreams and you need to be a little bit more realistic.

Do you genuinely want to go into aerospace engineering? Would you be happy doing it if you knew you could never be an astronaut?



Some cool unmanned missions, I know (although they're all critically underfunded) - I visited Astrium recently, I'm guessing that's where the person who visited you came from - I didn't know of any tangible manned missions though apart from the usual maintenance of the ISS.
I didn't realise op wants to be an astronaut, I assumed he wanted to work in the space industry as an engineer, which makes sense to do aerospace engineering.

@ op sorry I have no knowledge on astronauts career paths, just some on aerospace, so trust chloropholles advice about astronauts.


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I didn't realise op wants to be an astronaut, I assumed he wanted to work in the space industry as an engineer, which makes sense to do aerospace engineering.

@ op sorry I have no knowledge on astronauts career paths, just some on aerospace, so trust chloropholles advice about astronauts.


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Definitely makes sense to do aerospace engineering if you want to work in the space industry (although mechanical, electrical and particularly materials engineering are all also good options) but being an astronaut is quite different!
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Untrue, I study aerospace eng and a few days ago a person working for Airbus space and defence came in for a lecture. Companies like this then join forces with ESA, NASA etc, and there are exciting future manned and unmanned projects being planned/designed as I type this!

Anyway, you could apply for a sponsored summer school in engineering at a respected uni, eg personally I did it via Sutton trust. It will make your ps stand out a lot too!

Oh also I have no idea on astronauts and engineering routes into space , if that's what you meant.


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wow that's awesome! thanks for the advice on the engineering summer school, and it's fine you don't know anything about astronauts thanks for the info
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Late reply: I want to be an engineer, either making spacecraft or an environmental engineer. I know that it's very hard to be an astronaut but I want to do something that someday might get me there.

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My honest advice for you is don't plan to be an astronaut. Whilst I agree that it would be incredibly cool, the fact of the matter is that your chance of becoming an astronaut is significantly lower than your chance of winning the lottery. I think it'd be a much better idea pursuing a career path you think you'd be happy dedicating your life to than pursuing a career path you'd be less happy about in the vain hope that maybe it'd improve your chance of becoming an astronaut. Who knows, maybe one day you might have the chance - there have been astronauts that weren't in the military, I know that a Geologist was on one of the first space missions, but it's very rare because your physical condition is incredibly important - but you shouldn't plan for it. I think you just need to accept that dreams are dreams and you need to be a little bit more realistic.

Do you genuinely want to go into aerospace engineering? Would you be happy doing it if you knew you could never be an astronaut?



Some cool unmanned missions, I know (although they're all critically underfunded) - I visited Astrium recently, I'm guessing that's where the person who visited you came from - I didn't know of any tangible manned missions though apart from the usual maintenance of the ISS.
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