"Happy holidays" is bull**** Christian normativity.

I'm an antitheist, I find the very concept of any kind of god offensive. But I still celebrate Christmas, it's a celebration of generosity and kindness, which are perfectly secular values. The religious element of xmas no longer exists within the mainstream culture of the UK.

How the hell can you possibly find the idea of god, which is entirely harmless, offensive?


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Being watched every second of every minute of every day by some form of ethereal despot, who can convict you of thought crime and claims ownership over you not just throughout your life but during the eternity of your afterlife, after either condemning you to eternal torment or eternal gravelling at the dictators feet. I am relieved that no kind of theistic deity exists as a world in which any kind of god exists is a world in which there can never be freedom, only submission under the feet of the capricious psychopath who created the world for his own amusement. The morally correct thing to do if god existed would be either to impeach him, if that fails humanity should commit suicide en mass to prevent any other people being forced to live under absolute totalitarianism.

This is what I find offensive about the idea of deities, people who claim to desire this are free to do so, but keep me out of it.

Being watched every second of every minute of every day by some form of ethereal despot, who can convict you of thought crime and claims ownership over you not just throughout your life but during the eternity of your afterlife, after either condemning you to eternal torment or eternal gravelling at the dictators feet. I am relieved that no kind of theistic deity exists as a world in which any kind of god exists is a world in which there can never be freedom, only submission under the feet of the capricious psychopath who created the world for his own amusement. The morally correct thing to do if god existed would be either to impeach him, if that fails humanity should commit suicide en mass to prevent any other people being forced to live under absolute totalitarianism.

This is what I find offensive about the idea of deities, people who claim to desire this are free to do so, but keep me out of it.

I'm an antitheist, I find the very concept of any kind of god offensive. But I still celebrate Christmas, it's a celebration of generosity and kindness, which are perfectly secular values. The religious element of xmas no longer exists within the mainstream culture of the UK.

No, atheists simply lack a belief in God.

PS: I'm not an atheist.

What a surprise! Guess you're just an Islamophobe then

Don't confuse criticism with hating

I'm also an ex-Muslim, but I don't spend all day bashing on it and being an Islamophobe.

Nor do I, I comment on the Islam threads providing criticism, why don't you reply to my posts there instead of resorting to pointless insults

Why don't you learn to not be hateful and spiteful in every Islam-related thread on TSR.

Being watched every second of every minute of every day by some form of ethereal despot, who can convict you of thought crime and claims ownership over you not just throughout your life but during the eternity of your afterlife, after either condemning you to eternal torment or eternal gravelling at the dictators feet. I am relieved that no kind of theistic deity exists as a world in which any kind of god exists is a world in which there can never be freedom, only submission under the feet of the capricious psychopath who created the world for his own amusement. The morally correct thing to do if god existed would be either to impeach him, if that fails humanity should commit suicide en mass to prevent any other people being forced to live under absolute totalitarianism.

This is what I find offensive about the idea of deities, people who claim to desire this are free to do so, but keep me out of it.

Here we go again, if you have a problem with criticism then don't read those threads

I come on those threads hoping to read some good points about the topic being argued, yet all I ever see is you spewing racist/Islamophobic trash.

OK, whatever you say, well I guess you're going to continue seeing my "islamaphobic trash" because I'm not going to stop with legitimate criticisms of religion, however much you may try to silence it by calling it hate

Go ahead. It's just very sad that you feel the need to spew hate every day of the year.

I am religiously atheist and culturally jewish. I don't believe in god above, and I certainly don't believe in your little baby jesus. Furthermore, as someone who vividly remembers getting the crap kicked out of him in middle school for being the only jewish kid in the class, I can personally tell anyone who wants to say "it's just being nice! there's nothing wrong with it! it's just PC bull****." that otherization and the attempted normalization of one religious ideology has real world consequences for real people. It's not just you being nice, it's you actively participating in a system of control that is hurtful and offensive.

When you say happy holidays, what you are actually saying is "I think everyone should be celebrating Christmas right now, and I will make you celebrate it with me with a thinly veiled code word for Christmas."

This is true for two reasons. First, when you wish me happy holidays, you are only demonstrating your ignorance of the fact that the "Holiday" I am supposed to be celebrating ended roughly 2 weeks ago. If someone were to wish you happy holidays on January 9th you would look at them a little funny and wonder what they were talking about. I don't have to do that, because I know what you're actually talking about. You're talking about Christmas. Stop with the patronizing, faux-inclusive bull****.

The other reason it is true is because Hanukkah is not an important holiday. Like, at all. It is minor as all hell. In terms of important holidays Hanukkah is about as important as boxing day is. To Americans. It just happens to be almost exclusively the only Jewish holiday that Christians know about. It's almost as if this is because they trot it out to act like their Christmas celebrations are somehow secular. They sing 6 Christmas carols and 1 Hanukkah song at the kids "Holiday concert" and they go home in their nice little subaru foresters marveling at how cosmopolitan they all are.

From now on I am going to start wishing Christians "happy holidays" around Yom Kippur and then when they look at me funny explain to them that we're celebrating our important holidays together, so I was wishing them a wonderful St. Andrew's day. Thirty days in advance.

Seriously. Just stop it.

Sad that you label those who criticise as haters