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    (Original post by etomac)
    sounds like u hv done all the q. ppr available in the world

    ha ha .. a little bit
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    why asian's secondary school exams harder than those in the western countries?

    US maths is so easy compare to Japan
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    (Original post by shopaholicjenni)
    Errr.. dont think so, i take OCR and AQA exams,
    I am in UK, what do you mean by "The syllabus is the same for international and UK candidates and I don't think that your AL's are easier than the UK's..."
    Just heard about it, not sure in further detail
    The only UK board available internationally is Edexcel (afaik). The AL's I do have very similar (if not the same) syllabuses with the UK AL's.
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    In my first year at college I was only allowed to do 3 AS Levels and a GCSE. I would have loved to have taken 5 or 6 AS Levels and continue them all... This year though, I'm doing 3 A2s and 2 AS Levels which is cool. I don't know anyone who is taking 6 A Levels.
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    General Studies is not the weight of another A level.

    Come one you are really asking: Should I do five and an exam?

    Next year I am doing:

    Maths, Further Maths, Biology, Chemistry, Physics.

    And General Studies, but that doesn't really count does it down.

    Not by the top Unis anyhow.
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    (Original post by etomac)
    why asian's secondary school exams harder than those in the western countries?

    US maths is so easy compare to Japan

    Asian.. on reciting......western....on enlightening...
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    ya one thing i dont really get is that why are the UK and US exams so much easier than asian exams...? the local school ppl here in hk are like suffering BIG time from these hard exams.
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    (Original post by samdavyson)
    General Studies is not the weight of another A level.

    Come one you are really asking: Should I do five and an exam?

    Next year I am doing:

    Maths, Further Maths, Biology, Chemistry, Physics.

    And General Studies, but that doesn't really count does it down.

    Not by the top Unis anyhow.
    but by the same token..- if it's not directly relevant to the subject - then some 'top unis' don't really count FM as another A level, they just include it with Maths & specify you need a certain number of grades in different subjects.
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    (Original post by stanny)
    ya one thing i dont really get is that why are the UK and US exams so much easier than asian exams...? the local school ppl here in hk are like suffering BIG time from these hard exams.
    errr... i dont really think that the UK and US exams are much easier than asian exams, the reason why you might think that is because the asian test standards might be higher than UK and US, take maths for example, the maths at a level is like maths at primary school in asia, therefore you will find maths so easy, but as for the local students who have not studied that far yet, therefore they are struggling. as theres a big step between GCSE and AL subjects.
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    it looks like ppl doing 6 or more as levels, tend to have maths and further maths whether they're chinese or not. as for me, i managed to get 6 (7 if u include gs) as levels in maths, further maths, bio, chem, history and german and got a's in all of them. and this was on top of a job, extracurricular activities and loads of other things. so it is possible to juggle it all but u do need to learn to prioritise. but decided to drop german for a2, which i do regret now.

    (Original post by Elles)
    but by the same token..- if it's not directly relevant to the subject - then some 'top unis' don't really count FM as another A level, they just include it with Maths & specify you need a certain number of grades in different subjects.
    it's a pity that they don't count it, since it is so much harder than maths. especially now that they're diluting a-level maths. but i can understand that in subjects like medicine, they would prefer to see breadth rather than a focus on maths.
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    (Original post by Elles)
    but by the same token..- if it's not directly relevant to the subject - then some 'top unis' don't really count FM as another A level, they just include it with Maths & specify you need a certain number of grades in different subjects.
    bull*^&%

    I'm not sure which top unis don't count it, but Oxford certainly do, making Maths and Further Maths 2 out of the 3 As I need to get in. You're wrong.
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    (Original post by Yannis)
    bull*^&%

    I'm not sure which top unis don't count it, but Oxford certainly do, making Maths and Further Maths 2 out of the 3 As I need to get in. You're wrong.
    I could be wrong, but aren't you doing Maths? In which case, I would think further maths is "directly relevant" to the subject?
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    (Original post by Frances)
    I could be wrong, but aren't you doing Maths? In which case, I would think further maths is "directly relevant" to the subject?
    Yes and I'm sure that anyone doing further maths normally goes on to do a degree with mild relevance to maths. All of the people from our further maths group are doing comp sci, maths, economics or similar things. All of these courses consider Further Maths as a very good A-level. If I were to apply for history of art, then I doubt very much I would have ever picked further maths.
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    (Original post by Yannis)
    Yes and I'm sure that anyone doing further maths normally goes on to do a degree with mild relevance to maths. All of the people from our further maths group are doing comp sci, maths, economics or similar things. All of these courses consider Further Maths as a very good A-level. If I were to apply for history of art, then I doubt very much I would have ever picked further maths.
    Yeah I think most people doing further maths would go on to do something where they could actually use it, in which case I doubt the uni would have a problem- although I did come across one person once who was going on to do film studies.
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    (Original post by Yannis)
    bull*^&%

    I'm not sure which top unis don't count it, but Oxford certainly do, making Maths and Further Maths 2 out of the 3 As I need to get in. You're wrong.
    no need to get so agressive darling... :rolleyes:

    you're doing maths at oxford? there, there.. you're obviously very intelligent & your further maths is very important.

    i was talking about some universites for some subjects to make the point that some universities do look at general studies & even include it in offers.

    I personally think FM is DIRECTLY relevant to Maths. Maybe a help with Physics/Engineeing etc etc but not essential as far as i'm aware..

    & i know of students who had offers from Imperial for Medicine that didn't include FM, & LSE for Economics that didn't.

    i don't doubt FM is a 'very good A-level' & i'm not trying to belittle everyone who does it & i didn't say it doesn't count..merely was trying to explain how although it shows that yes, you are good at maths, if you're given an offer based on 3 grades & 2 of them included Maths then that doesn't prove the breadth that some courses want.

    does that make sense..?
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    (Original post by Elles)
    no need to get so agressive darling... :rolleyes:

    you're doing maths at oxford? there, there.. you're obviously very intelligent & your further maths is very important.

    i was talking about some universites for some subjects to make the point that some universities do look at general studies & even include it in offers.

    I personally think FM is DIRECTLY relevant to Maths. Maybe a help with Physics/Engineeing etc etc but not essential as far as i'm aware..

    & i know of students who had offers from Imperial for Medicine that didn't include FM, & LSE for Economics that didn't.

    i don't doubt FM is a 'very good A-level' & i'm not trying to belittle everyone who does it & i didn't say it doesn't count..merely was trying to explain how although it shows that yes, you are good at maths, if you're given an offer based on 3 grades & 2 of them included Maths then that doesn't prove the breadth that some courses want.

    does that make sense..?
    Rules unlike laws have exceptions. On the whole, people doing FM would contemplate pursuing a degree in a subject highly relevant to maths and would normally be given an offer with FM being part of it.
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    (Original post by cathaypacific_c)
    Government&Politics ... is that interesting?????????
    In fact, I don't know because I haven't take AS.
    But I think it is interesting.
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    (Original post by shopaholicjenni)
    errr... i dont really think that the UK and US exams are much easier than asian exams, the reason why you might think that is because the asian test standards might be higher than UK and US, take maths for example, the maths at a level is like maths at primary school in asia, therefore you will find maths so easy, but as for the local students who have not studied that far yet, therefore they are struggling. as theres a big step between GCSE and AL subjects.
    so does that mean chinese ppl are normally smarter than western ppl? muahahaha
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    so just to clarify..which is the rule (that may have a few exceptions..& i just happen to know all of them!)- that FM students do degree subjects 'highly relevant' to maths or 'with mild relevance'..?

    (Original post by Yannis)
    On the whole, people doing FM would contemplate pursuing a degree in a subject highly relevant to maths and would normally be given an offer with FM being part of it.
    (Original post by Yannis)
    Yes and I'm sure that anyone doing further maths normally goes on to do a degree with mild relevance to maths.
    & i misremembered..the LSE offer excluding FM was for History!

    (in case anyone gets the impression i particularly care about the university aspirations of those doing FM..i don't think i do..i just get somewhat irked at being told i talk 'bull*^&%' & are just 'wrong' about something i said occurs in SOME universities for SOME courses :rolleyes: )
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    (Original post by Elles)
    i don't doubt FM is a 'very good A-level' & i'm not trying to belittle everyone who does it & i didn't say it doesn't count..merely was trying to explain how although it shows that yes, you are good at maths, if you're given an offer based on 3 grades & 2 of them included Maths then that doesn't prove the breadth that some courses want.
    Well I agree with you even if no-one else does.

    All Further Maths shows is that instead of being very good at maths (getting an A at A-Level), you're a bit better than very good. Having had the misfortunate of doing FM, I think that any student who gets an A at Maths, could quite easily go on to get an A at FM with a little extra work. Unless your university degree is heavily reliant on your mathematic ability (Maths, Physics, Engineering) it will add very little to the strength of your application. Even if you are going on to do Maths at university, ideally FM would be your forth or fifth subject, it's a risk to go in with Maths + FM + another subject, universities prefer breadth rather than specialisation at A-Level.

    For Economics FM is not very helpful really, no more than doing an A-Level in Economics, your time would be far better spent going out of getting relevant work experience or doing something like Young Enterprise, than stacking up maths qualification.
 
 
 

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