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    Yes, you are more than your grades.

    I failed GCSE`s. I was one of those 5 C grade students.

    When I was 18 or so I took a job starting on minimum wage. Within a year I had an average wage of 37k. That was due to my abilities. Not the grades I achieved nor anything that education had taught me. I did go to college the following couple of years and did a BTEC course. I should have carried on working to be honest. I didn't learn anything of value. I took AS and A2 Mathematics in the second year. Pointless qualification.

    Finishing grades: Distinction*, Distinction*, Distinction*, A*

    I applied to Cambridge twice. First year outright rejection, second year interview, unconditional offer. Turned it down. I was offered something better that doesn't involve university at all.
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    (Original post by Mr Wrong)
    It's usually the failers and the poor achievers that say this. We are our achievements if you want to be taken seriously in intellectual circles. Nobodies going to listen to you if you don't have the knowledge to back it up having qualifications is one way to know who is the real deal and who is not.
    The issue is with your statement is that intellectual circles are a very narrow portion of the world we live in.

    Id also argue with your point about having the knowledge to back it up. Ive worked with many graduates from very prestigious institutions. Even though the work they are doing is within the remits of their degree they are utterly useless at times.
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    No. I don't think they define you at all. I think that they define your performance in a particular set of questions, on a particular day. And that's it.
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    The answer lies in whether you believe that the self-esteem and intrinsic self-worth feel-good movement of the mid-20th century in response to the growing field of psychology is a legitimate claim. I made a thread about this once but it got ignored ell
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    It isn't the grades that define us, more the stories behind them. What may have been a breeze for some with no other distractions going on around them, could have been an epic struggle for others who are the product of say one parent families with young siblings to take care of, or maybe disabled parents needing lots of attention. Where some want for nothing others can't afford internet connections and fancy computers or specialists books, and even after getting decent grades the option of where to go to university is often limited to the nearest one for a variety of reasons. So no, grades alone don't define a lot of us, although it's what we are mostly judged on, it's more about making the best of what you're dealt that should define us.
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    Am I more than the grades that I achieve - that is your question, right? and I say yes, you are. A person cannot not be measured by grades completely. A single person can be defined by the views about certain political and/or economical matters, the creative skills in art, music, literature, the dealings with people, the hobbies, the intellectual potential, the engagement out of the job, etc. A degree is a personal achievement which is just a small part of yourself, not the whole personality.
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    "If your A level results aren't joyous take comfort from the fact I got a C and two Us. And I have a Mercedes Benz."
    Jeremy Clarkson, 2014
    I also love the scene in Good Will Hunting where Robin William's character goes on about reading books not meaning everything. We can do well in exams and we can get good certificates, but that knowledge may lack experience.

    I'd like to think my grades reflect my hard work and effort that I put in, but I don't think they necessarily define us too much.
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    (Original post by Joyful_soul)
    How else can I define and feel better about myself if my academia, at this time, isn't impressive?
    Sorry I'm going to be serious because I know you're a fellow depressive and the aloha male thing will trigger you like me, perhaps

    1. You are not defined by your grades

    2. You are not defined by your looks, income, job, penis size or anything else superficial/materialistic

    [tough love ahead]

    3. some people will define you by the things in 2., these people are not worth your time

    4. The media will try and make out that you should be defined by 1. and 2., you must be strong and resist!!!

    5. While you're not defined by your grades, you are largely defined by your personality, so for example a 2.1 you worked hard for, defines you as a better person than a Third which you got because you were too lazy to work

    6. [middle ground] while it is good to love yourself unconditionally, this does not mean you should not strive to improve. This is PARTICULARLY important when you are depressed/have low self-esteem, it doesn't matter how many times we say you're good enough as you are, until you DO things to FEEL it (not necessarily win, or be the best or anything like that) you will never believe us.

    So in short strive to be the best you can be but accept that you are imperfect and flawed and loveable regardless
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    Grades matter when applying for universities and possibly matter when applying for jobs to a certain extent, but in the grand scheme of things, they're worth nothing.
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    (Original post by Tarte Tatin)
    Grades matter when applying for universities and possibly matter when applying for jobs to a certain extent, but in the grand scheme of things, they're worth nothing.
    Agree. A paper can never detail a person in the magnitude.

    (Original post by DelReyRevolution)
    No. I don't think they define you at all. I think that they define your performance in a particular set of questions, on a particular day. And that's it.
    Fine words. And so true.
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    (Original post by l1lvink)
    I have the same feeling.
    I entered AS levels sitting on all A and A* GCSEs, with Oxbridge selecting me for talks about HE.
    I entered A2 this year with: C,C,D and E in my AS levels. And now I'm suddenly struggling to get into Uni's that ask for BBB.
    All my teachers know I'm a good student, just my academia doesn't show it.

    Tbh, I've been rather depressed about this, although I don't show it. So I just keep my head down and try to improve, as hard as it is.

    I've got the same problem as you.
    Nowadays, I find it hard to smile in front of friends who got A s in their As.
    I got a C and three Ds in my As although I worked hard......
    I've got anxiety and depression, you see.
    When I was younger, I used to dream of being someone successful, but, now...when I try to think of my future, I see...nothing. I don't know who I am. I don't know what I am good at.
    Sometimes, it feels like, all the colour has gone out my life! I dunno what to do. I feel lost......
    So...I know how you and Op feel about yourselves....
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    Your grades make up one part of you, they do however not define you. Useful in certain things but in others utterly worthless.

    End of the day it is just a certificate
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    Tbh the grades we get in exams are based on how much we can memorise the stuff. So no I don't think they define us completely
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Tbh the grades we get in exams are based on how much we can memorise the stuff. So no I don't think they define us completely
    So true. People are more than merely memorising students in order to achieve certain degrees. A degree is a profession, a profession is just a (tiny) part of a personality. No more, no less.
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    (Original post by Binary Freak)
    If your academia at his current point in time isn't impressive.. Then why don't you work harder?

    Secondly.. Who even talks about academia on Christmas day?
    Posts like this just piss me off! Acting all superior. ** **** ********!

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    I think you'll find you've spelt macadamia incorrectly.
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    (Original post by Arieisit)
    Posts like this just piss me off! Acting all superior. ** **** ********!

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    I was just suggesting she try harder, that's all.
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    (Original post by tricky jj)
    I've got the same problem as you.
    Nowadays, I find it hard to smile in front of friends who got A s in their As.
    I got a C and three Ds in my As although I worked hard......
    I've got anxiety and depression, you see.
    Did you get help with the anxiety and depression? If so, how did you go about it?
    Mine isn't very serious but sometimes I think I should do something about it, but it isn't in my personality to do something about it....
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    (Original post by niya_1995)
    To be honest, I think for some people that bad grades will show in the end whether the educational route to success is for you or not. It's easy to lose interest in school but one day i realised how important grades mean to me to reach my goal so now I'm preparing for my A2's and giving them all I got. Previous AS's were BCDE during 2012.
    You spent 4 ywars pn A levels? Jesus help you

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    No not really!Just for universities!
 
 
 
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