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    Why stop at maths? Let's push A Level everything, that way everyone will be awesome!
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    (Original post by A5ko)
    Why stop at maths? Let's push A Level everything, that way everyone will be awesome!
    Some of the special people who had to go from lower school to college, as oppose to 6th form, who I have seen, would have to be pushed into a giant mincer to make them willing to do any work at all and some scraped through so uhhhh.... no. Also I am doing chemistry but I still wouldn't have wanted to do maths because I only got a B at GCSE and there are some people with that doing maths and physics and I think one of his wings might break soon
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    (Original post by Gott)
    Some of the special people who had to go from lower school to college, as oppose to 6th form, who I have seen, would have to be pushed into a giant mincer to make them willing to do any work at all
    Well being minced = food. So nothing goes to waste.
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    (Original post by A5ko)
    Well being minced = food. So nothing goes to waste.
    Very optimistic of you but imagine the mess when there heads explode doing differentiation.
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    I work in Mechanical Engineering producing components.

    So you would suspect I would use fairly complicated mathematics all the time. Wrong. I brush on trigonometry every so often but that's about as far as it goes. Ive never had to differentiate nor integrate.
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    (Original post by Dariaandahsfan)
    No, I achieved 5A*, 5A 1B and 1c at GCSE. The c was for none other than maths. Maths a level would be suicide. Excuse the crude usage of the word.

    As one of the commenters in the article put it:

    "This is ridiculous, I got a science degree but was absolute ****e at maths, I could however beat anyone when it came to english and science though. Not everyone is the same, not everyone has the same interests or abilities, lets nuture our differences rather than trying to put us all in the same box shall we!"

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    I take maths A level, and even the smart kids get B's. My AS class had about 24 people when we started the year, come A2 that number has dropped to about 10, the 10 people in that class got A* at GCSE, and even then we scraped B's.

    To the point: If maths A level is to be compulsory, then they have to do a ton of work to the GCSE syllabus, otherwise everyone who takes it is going to come out with a U.
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    I think there should be a bigger push from schools to not take foundation maths and push through the full gcse maths course. Also further pure maths at igcse I think paves the way for what the top mathematicians should do.. It's got some A2 stuff in there for goodness sake.


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    (Original post by MrJAKEE)
    I think there should be a bigger push from schools to not take foundation maths and push through the full gcse maths course. Also further pure maths at igcse I think paves the way for what the top mathematicians should do.. It's got some A2 stuff in there for goodness sake.


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    Meh, I took that IGCSE course that you were talking about. It wasn't particularly interesting. Very routine questions, some co-ordinate geometry, bit of integrations and differentials, sets (I can't even call it set theory, that's how crappy of a topic it was), basic applied calculus (kinematics, etc...), basic trig (identities, proving them, etc...), basics of vectors (although it could get quite complicated and interesting when relativity got involved, still routine though).

    All in all, I wasn't very impressed with it.
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    (Original post by XI Ki11JoY IX)
    I take maths A level, and even the smart kids get B's. My AS class had about 24 people when we started the year, come A2 that number has dropped to about 10, the 10 people in that class got A* at GCSE, and even then we scraped B's.

    To the point: If maths A level is to be compulsory, then they have to do a ton of work to the GCSE syllabus, otherwise everyone who takes it is going to come out with a U.
    If "Even the smart kids get B's" then maybe they aren't that smart? I don't get why people say A-level is so hard. I did advanced higher, and that's supposed to be harder then A level, and it wasn't that bad. Nothing compared to what we do at uni anyway
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    Meh, I took that IGCSE course that you were talking about. It wasn't particularly interesting. Very routine questions, some co-ordinate geometry, bit of integrations and differentials, sets (I can't even call it set theory, that's how crappy of a topic it was), basic applied calculus (kinematics, etc...), basic trig (identities, proving them, etc...), basics of vectors (although it could get quite complicated and interesting when relativity got involved, still routine though).

    All in all, I wasn't very impressed with it.
    You did relativity in IGCSE? I'm guessing you mean Galilean Relativity?
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    No. The schools simply can't teach maths well enough such that every student can succeed in A-level maths.
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    Definitely. I do A-level maths and it's great; because every single person in the class wants to be there and wants to learn (either just because they like maths or because they need maths A-level to get into their course). If maths A-level became compulsory, I think that those who actually want to do maths won't get the grades that they need or deserve simply because of the distraction of the people who don't want to be there.

    Plus, for those made to do maths, it'll take away from the time they spend on the subjects that they actually did want to do and then those grades might suffer.

    I don't see anyway to win by making maths compulsory at A-level.
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    (Original post by langlitz)
    You did relativity in IGCSE? I'm guessing you mean Galilean Relativity?
    No, no, no, no mechanics at all. Relativity in the stupid sense, y'know, vectors. The boats speed relative to the water is 5 m/s, the speed of the water is blah blah, find the time taken to cross the river. Stuff like that.
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    (Original post by langlitz)
    If "Even the smart kids get B's" then maybe they aren't that smart? I don't get why people say A-level is so hard. I did advanced higher, and that's supposed to be harder then A level, and it wasn't that bad. Nothing compared to what we do at uni anyway
    Ok, I'll admit, my B is counting the core 2 module that I messed up on (got a D)

    A level is hard when you think about where you stand, you're at uni right?, well to me right now GCSE math is the easiest exam paper I've ever done... go back 4 years and I would tell you something different.

    Same with you, I bet if I look back at calculus at this level in 4 years, I'd be laughing to myself. the point is: if smart kids can semi-fail a paper and still get a B, then imagine the other kids that can't do calculus without crying.
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    No, no, no, no mechanics at all. Relativity in the stupid sense, y'know, vectors. The boats speed relative to the water is 5 m/s, the speed of the water is blah blah, find the time taken to cross the river. Stuff like that.
    Yeah... Galilean relativity.
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    (Original post by German123)
    Stuff like? Care to elaborate to perhaps enlighten my understanding?
    Well say you were building a staircase, and needed to work out how many steps to put, or which angle to cut the wood, etc. You'd need trigonometry for that. That's just a very simple example.
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    (Original post by felamaslen)
    Well say you were building a staircase, and needed to work out how many steps to put, or which angle to cut the wood, etc. You'd need trigonometry for that. That's just a very simple example.
    I would not like to think so.
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    Meh, I took that IGCSE course that you were talking about. It wasn't particularly interesting. Very routine questions, some co-ordinate geometry, bit of integrations and differentials, sets (I can't even call it set theory, that's how crappy of a topic it was), basic applied calculus (kinematics, etc...), basic trig (identities, proving them, etc...), basics of vectors (although it could get quite complicated and interesting when relativity got involved, still routine though).

    All in all, I wasn't very impressed with it.
    Well I know you would most likely be in the minority with regards to that...


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    (Original post by German123)
    I would not like to think so.
    Is this better: mathematics is necessary, I'm right, you're wrong.
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    (Original post by felamaslen)
    Is this better: mathematics is necessary, I'm right, you're wrong.
    I did not actually state it is not necessary but only stated that trigonometry and sims equations are not that beneficial as basic maths and percentages is needed in the real world.
 
 
 
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