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    People are always going to compare and make judgements of other countries, it's just what happens.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    So what you are saying is immigrants play an important role in wage repression and undermine UK working conditions/rights?
    You don't think the onus should be on the government to spend resources properly enforcing things like the National Minimum Wage and gangmasters?
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    You don't think the onus should be on the government to spend resources properly enforcing things like the National Minimum Wage and gangmasters?
    Yes. But we are talking about a government that believes in the natural rate of unemployment and implements policies that result in wage repression. Why is this government going to be increase the min wage?? :confused:

    If immigration is being used to keep labour costs down then the working class do have a reason to be against immigration as it is being implemented. Even if this concern is expressed in a xenophobic and not very rational way. To just assume immigration is automatically a good thing in itself is a bit stupid which is something people on the so called left seem to do imo. I mean the unions complain about foreigners willing to undercut English labour etc. Weakening unions and then allowing say the poles to come over who are happy to work for sod all really does reduce the quality of life for people. It doesn't make you a racist to think so.

    Maybe if there was a more vocal group on the left expressing these concerns then the old labour type voters wouldn't be turning to a Thatcherism on steroids party full of xenophobes and homophobes

    But then johnny foreigner does make a good scape goat. You can't blame immigrants for say the way the banks create money when dealing with loans and mortgages.
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    Alles ist besser in Deutschland
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    (Original post by Gott)
    Alles ist besser in Deutschland
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    Tbh, the only one that is arrogant enough to make generalisations about millions of people is yourself.
    You generalised yourself below :rolleyes:

    No one ever claims that Britain or the British are better than everyone else because it is an absurd statement to make.
    There's a good minority of people within the UK that do. Britain is pretty arrogant as is Germany.
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    Love how contradictory the replies to this thread are. So many agreeing with the sentiment that the UK sucks - and then going on the relate why - with the other half of the replies wittering on about countries that are better - in entirely contradictory terms to the first half.
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    This is why we should be grateful about the UK: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30500439
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    (Original post by Fidus Achates)
    You generalised yourself below :rolleyes:
    Nope. I didn't say that all generalisations were incorrect / bad.

    I said yours was made up and was bad since it talked about millions in a derogatory manner.

    (Original post by Fidus Achates)
    There's a good minority of people within the UK that do. Britain is pretty arrogant as is Germany.
    Again. Just making things up.

    Please point out the polls which show that a "good minority" think they are better than everyone else.

    Let me give you a hint. They don't exist.
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    (Original post by miniteen)
    I come from France. I feel we have a better health system than the NHS.

    From what I've seen, A-levels are actually really bad. They barely scrape the surface of subjects - you go into more depth with the French baccalaureate than you do A-levels. They don't teach students how to work hard, they do not require enough hours (vs. the baccalaureate where I had like 45 hours a week). I went to both SOAS and LSE, and the only people I actually saw working hard were the international/EU students.

    The weather is better in Paris than it is the UK. It's raining/grey all the time there. That was sarcasm right?

    EDIT: And I have to say that higher education should, imo, cater to all sorts of people. The US system is great for people who are still unsure about what they want to do. At 18, few people actually know what they want to specialise in. It's great that you don't have to waste precious years of youth studying for a degree that will be a real waste of time. It's also great for people with eclectic interests. But it doesn't suit people who know exactly what they want to study - which is why I chose the UK.
    That all sounds marvellous.

    Strange then that so very many French people want to, er, cough, come to live in the UK.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    That all sounds marvellous.

    Strange then that so very many French people want to, er, cough, come to live in the UK.
    Taxes. Have you heard of them in France?

    EDIT: But the UK still doesn't do Taxes best, so I didn't put it in the list.
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    (Original post by miniteen)
    Taxes. Have you heard of them in France?

    EDIT: But the UK still doesn't do Taxes best, so I didn't put it in the list.
    No no. It's the food that brings the French here.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    No no. It's the food that brings the French here.
    Oh yes, that overcooked beefsteak! And the amazing cheese! Not to mention all the fish and chips, mmmmmh!

    You did make me laugh though. Thanks for that. I did forget to mention that there are more job opportunities in the UK though, or at least there seem to be.
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    (Original post by miniteen)
    Oh yes, that overcooked beefsteak! And the amazing cheese! Not to mention all the fish and chips, mmmmmh!

    You did make me laugh though. Thanks for that. I did forget to mention that there are more job opportunities in the UK though, or at least there seem to be.
    That's nice regarding the job opportunities comment.
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    (Original post by jammy4041)
    Have you been outside the UK to find out?

    Customer service is so much better in the United States...it's not even funny.
    Um... customer service? Not sure if you're being serious. Seems like an outrageously silly thing to base an opinion of a country on, especially since it varies so much between day to day, company to company, shop to shop...
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    I love the United Kingdom. Well, quite a few things about it, anyway. The beautiful countryside, the interesting history, the British sense of humour, the general friendliness, the acceptance of eccentricity, the show of determination when necessary, the general display of good manners, the NHS, the generosity shown in charity appeals... I could go on.

    That's not to say that everything is perfect. There is a lot of inequality, for example, and I think that we should have the PR voting system rather than FPTP. There are also things that we could learn from other countries. We could learn from the Netherlands how to deal with floods, and learn from Scandinavia about how to drive down re-offending rates amongst prisoners. On the whole, though, there's a lot that's good here .
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    (Original post by Kittiara)
    I love the United Kingdom. Well, quite a few things about it, anyway. The beautiful countryside, the interesting history, the British sense of humour, the general friendliness, the acceptance of eccentricity, the show of determination when necessary, the general display of good manners, the NHS, the generosity shown in charity appeals... I could go on.

    That's not to say that everything is perfect. There is a lot of inequality, for example, and I think that we should have the PR voting system rather than FPTP. There are also things that we could learn from other countries. We could learn from the Netherlands how to deal with floods, and learn from Scandinavia about how to drive down re-offending rates amongst prisoners. On the whole, though, there's a lot that's good here .
    If there wasn't limits on giving reputation, I'd give you it 10000000000,0000000000000000,000 000000,00000000000 times over! :yep: :hugs:
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    (Original post by pinkteddyx64)
    If there wasn't limits on giving reputation, I'd give you it 10000000000,0000000000000000,000 000000,00000000000 times over! :yep: :hugs:
    Aww thank you! :hugs:
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    (Original post by Kittiara)
    Aww thank you! :hugs:
    I especially loved the comment about the Scandinavian approach to crime, especially when the majority of people say we should take the far eastern approach to it.
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    (Original post by pinkteddyx64)
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    You mean
 
 
 
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