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Manchester: BA International Business, Finance & Economics

AAB-ABB

Sounds like a clever title ;-)...what do you guys think.

I wouldnt get into Oxford or Cambridge so please dont base your responses on that level.

Its just as another choice for Manchester as They dont require GCSE: A in maths and they do for the Management Course.

Also it has 'Finance' and 'Economics' in the title. Would this not be more highly regarded??

NB: Also which do you think is least popular Management or Managment (marketing) because i know you can change when you get there. I dont think I have anything about marketing in my PS though...

Reply 1

CityMonkey

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Nick-2

AAB-ABB

Sounds like a clever title ;-)...what do you guys think.

I wouldnt get into Oxford or Cambridge so please dont base your responses on that level.
Its just as another choice for Manchester as They dont require GCSE: A in maths and they do for the Management Course.

Also it has 'Finance' and 'Economics' in the title. Would this not be more highly regarded??

NB: Also which do you think is least popular Management or Managment (marketing) because i know you can change when you get there. I dont think I have anything about marketing in my PS though...

Why is that? Is it because you are not very ambitious, academics not good enough, poor personality...? Any of those will get you straight rejected by a bank.

By the time you come to applications, they won't even look at you unless you have AAA, this isn't coming from me, this is coming from bankers I've talked to.

Also, I wouldn't touch any course with the name "finance" in the title unless it is at LSE or it is an MSc at a top school.

Reply 2

dallepalle

LBC --> did you talk to that banker in your dreams??

Nick - 2 --> I did that course in manchester. Had three amazing years and was able to get an internship at BB in M&A. I know plenty of students from that course that went into IB afterwards. So your career perspective is certainly not limited just because you have a "finance" in your course name.

Go for it

Reply 3

TheAP

9

Manchester is a decent uni but I think the BA in IBFE is rediculous where one become the jack of all trades...

not a very popular course aswell if my memory serves me right.

Reply 4

Singh_87

15

TheAP

Manchester is a decent uni but I think the BA in IBFE is rediculous where one become the jack of all trades...

not a very popular course aswell if my memory serves me right.

They are all heavily linked; it's not so much of becoming a jack of all trades, but gaining a broader perspective of business and finance. I guess the course is not as 'limited' as a straight business degree would be, or a typical L100.

To the OP, mate, I think you need to do a lot more in terms of research. You seem to pick courses and universities where you merely pass the minimum requirements, and courses with interesting names.
I would look into what the courses actually entail in terms of modules, what interests you the most, and more logical reasonings. Clever titles won't get you into IB (I assume this is what you are talking about).

Reply 5

CityMonkey

11

dallepalle

LBC --> did you talk to that banker in your dreams??

No, actually I've been to 10 networking events in the past 2 weeks, and at almost all those banks the bankers were saying "everyone gets AAA these days, you need other things to differentiate yourself from the others", i.e. it means having AAA no longer has any kudos attached to it, if the person puts in even a decent amount of work they can get those grades. You think banks trust a system where 1 in 4 people get the top grade?!

Nick - 2 --> I did that course in manchester. Had three amazing years and was able to get an internship at BB in M&A. I know plenty of students from that course that went into IB afterwards. So your career perspective is certainly not limited just because you have a "finance" in your course name.

Go for it

"Plenty" of students? I'd certainly like to know the percentage. Just because you got in, does it mean this person will too? Think about it.

Reply 6

bally

3

LBC213

No, actually I've been to 10 networking events in the past 2 weeks, and at almost all those banks the bankers were saying "everyone gets AAA these days, you need other things to differentiate yourself from the others", i.e. it means having AAA no longer has any kudos attached to it, if the person puts in even a decent amount of work they can get those grades. You think banks trust a system where 1 in 4 people get the top grade?!

"Plenty" of students? I'd certainly like to know the percentage. Just because you got in, does it mean this person will too? Think about it.

But it proves its possible.

Reply 7

Nick-2

OP

Thanks guys... NO! actually im not planning on Investment banking...more management consultancy...What was the degree like?

I see what you mean ive done my ucas stuff but its not getting srnt off yet so i can change it. Not really ive reasearched the unis and looked at the courses based on the next best courses. On the day i completed my ucas i found straight economics at Manchester, with less requirements than the one with finance in the name! BBB - I think! Very well regarded degree etc. etc. but when I looked at the modules i came across further maths and alot of stats. Its ok to say do more reasearch but the unis sites really do PISS me off. Manchester gives you the modules for L100 but not for the other one or the management degree! So how am I supposed to compare!

Re: Oxford - Well pick any number of.... Its now too late, I dont take maths, I dont take Science, I seriously doubt I will get AAA, I got a C in my dropped subject, the cities dont excite me, there far away, there stuck up...

Reply 8

shady lane

16

Since when does having AAA mean you'll be a good banker? This obsession with exam scores is beyond me.

Reply 9

Tednol

10

shady lane

Since when does having AAA mean you'll be a good banker? This obsession with exam scores is beyond me.

You need to understand how the media has come to make people very aware of exam grades. One week every summer is dedicated to little else. Tragic, I know.

Also, more topically, IBFE is a good course at Manc and I know a lot of talented people who studied it. If you put the leg work in at uni and come out with an impressive CV to compliment a good IBFE degree result, you'll do well.

Reply 10

CityMonkey

11

bally

But it proves its possible.

Yes only it sounds like the OP is using his course as a stepping stone into banking or managment consultancy, in which case what I said stands because relatively speaking, Manchester (being the biggest university in Europe or whatever it is) and that particular course are irrelevant, in the grand scheme of things. Especially if OP wants to get into management consultancy, I'm sure it is this very forum I read that Bain or McKinsey last year had hired only Oxbridge grads. Probably not out of favourable selection but it just goes to show what a good university and good course puts you in terms of getting a job in the finance sector.

Reply 11

soul272lc

LBC213

I wouldn't touch any course with the name "finance" in the title unless it is at LSE or it is an MSc at a top school.

WHY?

Reply 12

CityMonkey

11

soul272lc

WHY?

Because:

1) None of the top unis (with the expcetion of LSE who do acc&fin) do courses with the title "finance" or "business", and banks recruit about 90% of their intakes from these universities.

2) Finance is an extremely mathematical subject, to know the type of finance you will be dealing with in the banks, most people have upto atleast a masters degrees in physics, engineering, maths, economics or MSc finance. There is no way, considering the entrance requirements, the reputations of the universities that do these courses and the general structure of these courses that you will be learning that level of mathematics.

3) Everything you need to know to do your job will be taught to you. To succeed in this job you need certain underlying competencies, not in depth knowledge of the job, hence why students from a wide range of degrees are taken. This means that any advantage you think you would hold with having a "finance" or "business" degree is negated right from the outset, so I wouldn't kid myself and think that the flash and very promising names of these degrees will land you a great job in the City, because in all probability, atleast compared to the top 5, they won't unless you have something very promising on the CV.

I'm not trying to put anyone off from doing these courses I'm just offering my opinions, and I do agree people do get into finance with them, all I am saying is don't let the amazing course brochures and grand title names fool you into doing a course that isn't the most attractive out there, by miles. At the end of the day, universities are a business and all their brochures are sales brochures.

Reply 13

andy_cole2

14

i was just curious i have an easy to get into offer from manchester for their economics BSC its probably going to go down as my insurance as they're only asking for 34 points (IB). I was wandering if this was any good, obviously i have applied LSE, Oxford and warwick and york but i this is such an easy offer how highly regarded is manchester?

Reply 14

TheAP

9

LBC213

Because:

1) None of the top unis (with the expcetion of LSE who do acc&fin) do courses with the title "finance" or "business", and banks recruit about 90% of their intakes from these universities.

Yep, once again you correct:

Imperial :eek:

: Applied Business Management http://www.imperial.ac.uk/wyecampus/teaching/courses/undergrad/busmanagement.htm

UCL (not a top uni?): http://search.ucas.co.uk/cgi-bin/hsrun/search/search/StateId/RE0J2wICBPqOMBdJtajznn_NTJ_mm-3HHu/HAHTpage/search.HsDetails.run?n=798300

Warwick (again, not a top uni?): Business in abundance

http://search.ucas.co.uk/cgi-bin/hsrun/search/search/StateId/RE0KQwICBY1OMBq4tajreHa7TGRn3-VBJs/HAHTpage/search.HsDetails.run?n=798485

http://search.ucas.co.uk/cgi-bin/hsrun/search/search/StateId/RE0KQwICBY1OMBq4tajreHa7TGRn3-VBJs/HAHTpage/search.HsDetails.run?n=798505

http://search.ucas.co.uk/cgi-bin/hsrun/search/search/StateId/RE0KQwICBY1OMBq4tajreHa7TGRn3-VBJs/HAHTpage/search.HsDetails.run?n=798523

All for now, have a good day,

The AP

Reply 15

CityMonkey

11

Thanks for the factual correction. Obviously this now means the OP will have an equal chance of getting into banking as a mathmo from Cambridge, engineer from Imperial and a lawyer from UCL. Congratulations to the many Manchester students on this course, a "Prodigy" has put you firmly in the realms of the top tier students in this country, Goldman will surely follow suit...

Reply 16

TheAP

9

LBC213

Obviously this now means the OP will have an equal chance of getting into banking as a mathmo from Cambridge, engineer from Imperial and a lawyer from UCL.

If you say so Lassy...

LBC213

Congratulations to the many Manchester students on this course, a "Prodigy" has put you firmly in the realms of the top tier students in this country, Goldman will surely follow suit...

Where the hell did I imply that? Stop reading things that aren't there.

Idiot.

Reply 17

CityMonkey

11

TheAP

If you say so Lassy...

Where the hell did I imply that? Stop reading things that aren't there.

Idiot.

Ok, thanks.

Reply 18

soul272lc

LBC213

None of the top unis (with the expcetion of LSE who do acc&fin) do courses with the title "finance" or "business", and banks recruit about 90% of their intakes from these universities.

Well, in this sense, graduates who are not from the top unis have a little chance to get in anyway, no matter whether the title of their degrees has the word "finance" or not..

So, if what u said is true..its just a matter of what uni u are at..not a matter of what courses you do..

Reply 19

Nick-2

OP

LBC213

Yes only it sounds like the OP is using his course as a stepping stone into banking or managment consultancy, in which case what I said stands because relatively speaking, Manchester (being the biggest university in Europe or whatever it is) and that particular course are irrelevant, in the grand scheme of things. Especially if OP wants to get into management consultancy, I'm sure it is this very forum I read that Bain or McKinsey last year had hired only Oxbridge grads. Probably not out of favourable selection but it just goes to show what a good university and good course puts you in terms of getting a job in the finance sector.

dont get what your sayin mate, manchester is no good? Ucas should get sent tomorrow so hurry lol...No Oxbridge has passed mate

Manchester: BA International Business, Finance & Economics

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