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    (Original post by Choo.choo)
    Scotland was not an independent country then. Norway has been independent for over 100 years. Independence makes all the difference. I bet you that would have not been the case had Scotland been independent. We would never have had to put up with Margaret Thatcher and her bright ideas. Innovation (manufacturing) is not what you do if you want to make money fast. You need to do marketing - iPhones, for example. Build one iPhone then 2 years from now improve the phone by adding specifications too it and extract the same wealth from people again. That does not make ordinary people wealthier. It just makes Apple wealthier. So Margaret Thatcher thought why should we spend money on those miserable Scots. We have North Sea Oil that will keep the economy cushioned against economic shock and decided to have financial services instead in and around the City of London.
    A sheer minority of people wanted independence during Thatcher's time. I don't think you know a lot about basic economics. Apple do make "ordinary people wealthier", they pay their corporate taxes (admittedly some avoided) so money is re-distributed through benefits and employ thousands of people around the world with a stable income. This I see is helping ordinary people. What do you think Apple do with the money they earn? Hoard it?

    Your point on Maggie makes absolutely no sense. Remember North Sea oil revenues peaked during Thatchers time and so arguably it was her policies that enticed foreign investment in the industry. Of course many scots won't admit this.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-26326117


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    (Original post by Choo.choo)
    Build one iPhone then 2 years from now improve the phone by adding specifications too it and extract the same wealth from people again. That does not make ordinary people wealthier. It just makes Apple wealthier.
    So the manufacturing of iPhones doesn't make people wealthier?

    Your argument is all over the shop here...
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    (Original post by Choo.choo)
    You really don't understand how it works in that case. Norway does so well and people are so comfortable because they build and make things. In Scotland there is no heavy industry because Thatcher shut it all down. She decided we should buy in from abroad where labour is cheaper.

    Haven't you ever heard the phrase "Work creates wealth". The only way for people to get wealthier is through the work that people do, i.e. their occupation. If the types of jobs you say create wealth then why is there so much poverty?

    76% of the population of norway is involved in the service sector. In the UK it's 78.4%.

    Norway does so well
    Because of significantly higher productivity figures, less people making a living by being full time unemployed, less blame culture.

    The yeSNP do have a very odd understanding of Norway.

    more scots voted for thatcher than ever voted for salmond.

    thatcher never **** any industry down in scotalnd. Or anywhere else in the UK. She merely stopped the government bailouts. If they were viable they would've survived. But they weren't viable and didn't survive. that has a lot to do with the trade unions.
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    (Original post by c.t.14)
    Opinion polls for a potential EU referendum have Scotland with a much greater desire to remain in the EU than England.
    It is worth pointing out that this is a myth. A recent poll of scots showed that 49% would vote to stay in the EU,whilst 35% would vote to leave.

    http://survation.com/a-tale-of-two-r...dence-scots-2/

    On the other hand, a UK wide poll found that 56% would vote to stay in the EU against 36% who would choose to leave.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reu...high-poll.html

    So in addition to Scotland having a lot more undecided voters, the main conclusion that can be drawn from this is that support for staying in the EU is considerably higher in the UK as a whole than it is in Scotland.
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    (Original post by c_al)
    It is worth pointing out that this is a myth. A recent poll of scots showed that 49% would vote to stay in the EU,whilst 35% would vote to leave.

    http://survation.com/a-tale-of-two-r...dence-scots-2/

    On the other hand, a UK wide poll found that 56% would vote to stay in the EU against 36% who would choose to leave.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reu...high-poll.html

    So in addition to Scotland having a lot more undecided voters, the main conclusion that can be drawn from this is that support for staying in the EU is considerably higher in the UK as a whole than it is in Scotland.
    Sssshhhh.
    SNP hq haven't said that so it can't be true.
 
 
 
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