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    R.I.P Damn what's up with all these planes coming down lately (I know it's rare)

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    (Original post by ESPORTIVA)
    what's up with all these planes coming down
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    why hasnt he got any clothes on?

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    GodAtum;52551653]why hasnt he got any clothes on?
    See this narrative discussing MH17 over Ukraine:

    "If the clothes are missing, usually that means that [the passenger] was probably either ejected from the plane or exposed to extreme wind blast going hundreds of miles an hour, falling out of the sky," said Diehl, who has worked as an investigator for the National Transportation Safety Board, the Federal Aviation Administration, and the United States Air Force. "The effect of very high speed wind, or the slipstream, hitting the bodies can easily literally rip the clothing right off."

    Diehl said that what happens to a passenger during a disaster like that of Flight 17, which was cruising at 33,000 feet when it was hit by a missile, is largely dependent on where the person was seated on the plane. "Your body could be stripped naked if you're thrown out through an opening, or your body could be relatively intact if you were in part of the aircraft that 'fluttered' down to the surface" because it was still connected to a wing or another part of the body of the aircraft. Though investigators don't yet know exactly how the Malaysia Airlines Boeing broke apart in the air, Diehl gave this example: "Let's say the fuselage's center wing section was still attached to one wing, it may have been twirling down at 120 miles per hour or something — almost like a high-speed car crash — so you might have very different amounts of destruction to the body."

    Diehl did have one (very relatively) comforting thing to add: "The airplane most likely had a rapid decompression which, at those altitudes, would make you pass out." That, combined with "the G-forces of the airplane spinning around probably meant, mercifully, that most of these people weren't conscious on the way down."
    Obviously discussion of this subject is very unpleasant and potentially distressing to some people, but the state of bodies give good clues to air accident investigators. Naked or semi clothed aircrash victims are often indicative of a structural break-up at altitude (eg Lockerbie PanAm 103).It goes without saying that a thorough forensic examination of all available wreckage and flight data recorders is essential to provide the definitive explanations.
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    (Original post by MrJAKEE)
    So tell me how many flights over say, the whole world over the past couple of years have gone missing? Hardly any that I can recall of. And the region? The same one. There's definitely something wrong going on in that region.


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    You really are a plonker........ also, stop acting like it's vanished and will be lost for ever.... as we can see, it's been found

    Go find some other BS conspiracy theory please.
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    (Original post by arichmond64)
    You really are a plonker........ also, stop acting like it's vanished and will be lost for ever.... as we can see, it's been found

    Go find some other BS conspiracy theory please.
    While I admit some of what I said was all over the place (on the tech I was wrong!) I think it was unfair many thought I was solely referring to it blipping off the map. I do understand some parts I did jumble up (bad day) if you actually saw the other stuff I said I was talking about negligence, so I recommend you go look at that (along with saying that only time will tell). The tech was always a secondary point and never a primary.

    I don't find negligence to be a BS conspiracy theory, baring in mind no one knew at the time while people were originally posting on what they thought had happened. And I'm sure some will agree with me whether or not they say it on here or not.


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    (Original post by Noble.)
    When it first hit the news, my initial thoughts were essentially along the lines of my post on this thread here:

    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...7#post52517477

    Obviously that relies on them actually trying to climb out of the storm. Apparently they didn't climb, although further down that page I link to a radar picture showing them climbing through FL363.

    If it's true they didn't climb, I'd be inclined to agree with Schleigg that they flew straight through it and it turned out to be an exceptionally bad storm.
    But I don't get why he (the Commander) would request for a higher flight level because a storm like that and an aircraft such as a 320, CB's can go to 550's.

    Recent reports show that some bodies that were recovered had their life vests on, so they knew they were going down..
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    Sooo, a Chinese national on Reddit claimed that he predicted the crash of the plane thirteen days prior to the crash :O -http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2890215/Mysterious-Chinese-blogger-sparks-online-frenzy-predicting-black-hand-going-bring-AirAsia-jet-THIRTEEN-days-one-vanished.html


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    (Original post by GodAtum)
    why hasnt he got any clothes on?

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    Clothes get ripped off through rapid decompression of an air craft.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    Clothes get ripped off through rapid decompression of an air craft.
    Er, no they don't. Aircraft can lose cabin pressurisation for a number of reasons and by itself, just means that you have to obtain oxygen from emergency means (drop down masks!). If the de pressurisation is due to structural failure of the cabin, then passengers and crew will go from a calm, conditioned and comfortable atmosphere to a chaotic and very hostile environment (freezing, no oxygen, hurricane force winds) in the space of seconds. That is why clothes are ripped off.
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    (Original post by Ikaruss)
    Er, no they don't. Aircraft can lose cabin pressurisation for a number of reasons and by itself, just means that you have to obtain oxygen from emergency means (drop down masks!). If the de pressurisation is due to structural failure of the cabin, then passengers and crew will go from a calm, conditioned and comfortable atmosphere to a chaotic and very hostile environment (freezing, no oxygen, hurricane force winds) in the space of seconds. That is why clothes are ripped off.
    Yes they do.

    Witnessed at places like Lockerbie. Caused a huge amount of confusion when the first jet liners (comet) started to fall out of the sky in the 50s

    Rapid decompression, and when I say rapid, I'm not talking a small hole in the window, does some crazy stuff. It initially looks like the result of an explosion.

    Basically, naked body found after an air disaster isn't odd.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    Yes they do.

    Witnessed at places like Lockerbie. Caused a huge amount of confusion when the first jet liners (comet) started to fall out of the sky in the 50s

    Rapid decompression, and when I say rapid, I'm not talking a small hole in the window, does some crazy stuff. It initially looks like the result of an explosion.

    Basically, naked body found after an air disaster isn't odd.
    Mature fella, I think this is starting to get into a bun fight about terminology. Altitude decompression (depressurisation) is the loss of air pressure in a sealed system (aircraft cabin) and causes various physiological changes in the human body together with atmospheric changes. That does not cause clothes to be ripped off. That is due to extreme wind blast caused when a body is exposed to the hostile environment outside the protection of a sealed cabin.

    There are a number of contributors to this thread who will have experienced rapid decompression in the hypobaric chambers at the RAF Centre of Aviation Medicine, where they take you from a cabin pressure of 8k up to 25k in the space of a few seconds. You experience all the expected effects including fog, noise, and changes to body cavities (recommended not to have a curry and beers the night before). In none of those events have I ever lost my flying suit.

    Hope that helps. Not sure if you read my post after the deleted photo where I included the observations of a US air accident investigator (NTSB, FAA, USAF) on this subject. I also said that the same phenomena was seen at Lockerbie.

    I really don't want to turn this into a pi55ing contest, especially when the real focus should be on the relatives and friends of the poor victims.
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    (Original post by Simes)
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    ILLUMINATI I KNEW IT!!

    PUT ON YOUR TINFOIL HATS BEFORE THEY MIND CONTROLS YOU

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    Spotted large chunks of the plane on radar according to reports. Not confirmed it's the plane yet though.

    Thirty bodies have been found now though.
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    some people with flying experience hijacked the plane and flew it off course , thats what came in news today
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    (Original post by me2*)
    some people with flying experience hijacked the plane and flew it off course , thats what came in news today
    ....and which news would this be?
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    (Original post by me2*)
    some people with flying experience hijacked the plane and flew it off course , thats what came in news today
    Which is why it's been found exactly on course...?

    What nonsense are you trying to peddle?
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    What's up with Air Asia? Any info or news updated yet?
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    (Original post by Sena5)
    What's up with Air Asia? Any info or news updated yet?
    From collected sources:


    • Wreckage is found. Plane crash blamed on weather. Icy conditions in the air had caused the engine to stall. 30 Bodies have been recovered as of saturday morning. Blackbox yet to be recovered.
    • Divers sent to examine AirAsia wreckage.
    • AirAsia did not have permission to fly the route.
    • Second SanDiego based ship joins the search effort.
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    Okay I dont believe a word that comes out of the governement mouth nor its propoganda news outlets. I dont really think we are going to hear the truth about it. This is the reason why

    1st plane goes down is a tragedy
    2nd plane goes down maybe it is a coincidence
    3rd plane goes down, there is something really sinister.

    3 planes down, all from Mayalsian Airline in a space of 9 months. It doesnt sound like an accident to me.
 
 
 
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