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    Oh Paige :sad:
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    WWE has apparently ended Sami Zayn's "push" - but can it even be called that? He is being booked like a loser, not an underdog. He's dangerously close to becoming Dolph Ziggler, and after he emerged to defend the fired Mick Foley last night, he was run through by Samoa Joe again. The opening segment was decent - nobody does the puppy dog face better than Foley, do they? - but the show was filled with illogical booking.

    We've seen Sasha Banks interfere in numerous Bayley matches recently, but she just sat back and watch Nia Jax beat her to make a Fatal 4-Way (thus making Banks' quest for the belt harder?) at WM33? Likewise, the Dana Brooke and Charlotte feud feels undercooked and thrown together. We haven't seen enough dissension between the pair, and it seems their relationship was always there when it felt convenient for WWE, and absent elsewhere.

    The sheer disrespect the company showed to the cruiserweights - cutting TJ Perkins vs The Brian Kendrick (who won) off before the two-minute mark, before they half-heartedly tried to build on the Kendrick/Akira Tozawa feud by having the heel steal his passport (ffs). Austin Aries picked up the win against Tony Nese in the penultimate match of the night, which was much better and a good build to the WM33 match. I doubt Aries will win (I want Neville to run with the belt for as long as possible in 2017), but it'll be a good match between the pair. The final match of the night saw Roman Reigns and Braun Strowman fight to a DQ, when the Undertaker emerged and took a spear from Reigns. It's hard to see where this all leaves Strowman, because really, if he isn't going to be a part of the match at Mania, he needs to be running through midcarders and then winning the Andre the Giant Memorial Trophy Battle Royal.

    The way the broadcast ended - Taker sat up and signalling Reigns was in trouble - makes me desperate for next week's go-home RAW. So did the build to the Seth Rollins vs Triple H feud, which saw HHH sit down with Michael Cole and a backstage interview with Rollins' rehabilitation physiopherapist. Really, if WWE is smart, they book a No Holds Barred or non-sanctioned Street Fight (a la Shawn Michaels vs HHH at '02 Summerslam) for Mania and add real heat to the feud.

    The New Day (as expected) were absent from proceedings, but we saw Sheamus and Cesaro beat Enzo and Cass and Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows to seal the Triple Threat match for Mania, and in the segment of the night, we saw Kevin Owens ambush Chris Jericho after Y2J made the feud especially personal, digging up DMs from Owens and pictures of Owens dressed as a Jericho fan from the turn of the 2000s ("he's marking out, mannnnn!" made me laugh a lot).
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    Crikey, next week is already the go home show? It doesn't exactly seem to be building up with any real anticipation does it but I'll be up to watch Mania.

    Just need to figure out to get set up on the Network - is that where everyone else will be watching it?
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    Paige and Xavier to face no further punishment, apparently.
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    The weirdest episode of Smackdown ever, the whole thing was full of one-of-a-kind surrealness, it was awesome.

    - AJ spending the entire show just standing in a car park.

    - Miz' double-gimmick infringement by acting like Cena while doing Becky Lynch's puns.

    - Maryse as BOTH Bellas.

    - Tyler Breeze as Nikki Bella.

    - Nikki getting Chyna booking by manhandling Tyler with da greatest of ease.

    - And no one really putting it over.

    - More woman-on-man violence with Becky missile dropkicking Ellsworth in the face (beautiful suplex to Carmella after btw (bothced the Mick Kick though))

    - Bray threateningly cursing/knighting Randy with a toy from the casino's gift shop.

    - The women and kid 'casuals' being 'smarks' and cheering the heels and booing the faces in the tag title match.

    - Dunn trying to bury Miz' segment by cutting to the crowd and they're ALL playing on their phone.

    - The pop for DDP Yoga (seen but not heard)

    - Maryse's Bella "like y'know whatever" accent.

    - Is Fandango doing a Broken Matt-esque English accent?

    - Having to pretend Mauro's 'ill' while Tom visibly fills his seat like some metaphor, a perfectly situated 3-man table rather than being on the preiphary of a 4-man with no table space. **** pics = push.

    - Someone actually thanking a fellow wrestler for interference

    - Still using movie effects and soundtracks for Wyatt even when he's jumping someone live

    - Natalya corpses...

    - ...and it's JBL of all people making her laugh. (Do you ship?)

    - Slater and Rhyno arrive for work 10 minutes before the show's over

    - "Woman I genuinely and sincerely love"

    - "That's strike ONE" *pointing to air Cena pose*

    - "That's your... SECOND STRIKE... today" *a-ok Cena pose*

    - "John Cena recognise."

    - "Nicole's actual bedroom is under the floor."

    - Miz/Cena's rapey constant stroking of Maryse/Nikki's face

    - Shane was already here all along

    - AJ being nervous about a fight with Shane

    - Luke Harper insinuating a brilliant double-swerve: Bray knew Orton would turn on him, so used him to burn Abigail to make Wyatt stronger all along.

    - And no one actually commenting on this potentially huge plot twist ever again.

    - The rest of the Wyatt family that aren't wrestlers actually existing and being mad now

    I feel like even if the matches or angles suck, the variety makes it more interesting than a show with AJ/Shane, the champ doing nothing and only one real match would normally be.

    (Original post by Aky786UK)
    Just need to figure out to get set up on the Network - is that where everyone else will be watching it?
    Sure... 'the Network'... >_>
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    I thought that was an excellent, excellent episode of SmackDown Live.

    The Miz and Maryse Total Bellas spoofs were just stunning. They mix in the right amount of shoot stuff, bringing up points the IWC will buy into, and the acting and delivery was just great. With the Miz and John Cena, I'm pretty sure they are just creating an angle and seeing it through, but with Maryse and Nikki Bella... I think the lines are blurred. I think they genuinely believe what they say to each other, and I think we're seeing that play out. Cena and Nikki delivered twin AAs to Breezango after the former had got the win over Fandango (the ticket shtick is very, very funny and needs more screen time) in between the segments. Cena/Nikki were good value on Talking Smack, too. I'm really enjoying this.

    Two other matches - Becky Lynch vs Carmella and Randy Orton vs Baron Corbin - were massively disappointing, owing to their finishes - which, for storyline purposes and to further the respective programmes - came via interference. I'm looking forward to Dean Ambrose vs Corbin at Mania, but the feud needs more heat and screen time going forward. They've got one week to rectify that. SmackDown did a much better job at making the AJ Styles vs Shane McMahon feud appealing. I'm not 100% into it, but AJ thrived in the opening heel promo segment, and we saw an iconic image to close the show (albeit, now they've played the Shane-off-the-top-rope card, I don't know where they can go). How weird was it that AJ took so long to get to the ring, too?

    We also saw Bray Wyatt deliver a sneak attack on Orton after he got the win over Corbin, and WWE is smartly incorporating just the right amount of supernatural stuff into the feud. It's a really good programme right now, and I love Wyatt's delivery and dialogue. That chilling segment came after American Alpha dropped the SmackDown Tag-Team Championships to the Usos. Why have a title swap on SmackDown? Well, because with a WM33 card as stacked as it is, a blue-brand tag match would have got lost in the shuffle. Alpha's reign has been stale, the Usos have been revitalised since their heel run. I'm a fan of changing the belts, and the babyfaces will suit chasing the straps better than carrying them. It's a shame The Revival weren't the ones to win the belts from them, though, admittedly.

    On 205 Live, we saw a progression of the Akira Tozawa vs The Brian Kendrick feud, when the heel beat down the babyface after Tozawa picked up a quick win over Alex Reynolds. Something about the feud just isn't clicking right now. The passport angle makes no sense and completely undermines the audience's intelligence, and I would have preferred Kendrick to act as Tozawa's mentor before some sort of implosion down the road (similar to Orton/Wyatt). That bout followed Tony Nese picking up a win over TJ Perkins, via dirty tactics, in a fun 10+ minute opener (a far cry from Perkins vs Kendrick on RAW, which was sub 2 minutes). In the final match, Neville beat Mustapha Ali - and showcased his dastardly heel ways even more impressively - after he and Austin Aries clashed on the mic.
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    (Original post by Mackay)
    Paige and Xavier to face no further punishment, apparently.
    Why should they? They're free to do what they want outside of the ring as long as it's in private. Paige is the victim here if anything.
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Why should they? They're free to do what they want outside of the ring as long as it's in private. Paige is the victim here if anything.
    Wasn't saying they should?
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    Oh, and Bad Blood is returning in July. RAW-brand PPV.
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    (Original post by Mackay)
    Wasn't saying they should?
    Yh I was just voicing my opinion. Wasn't accusing you of saying anything haha
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Yh I was just voicing my opinion. Wasn't accusing you of saying anything haha
    Paige's mum's tweets broke my heart tbh. So sad
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    Finished The Rock's book - hope this rumoured second book of his is just as enthralling as this first edition was. I didn't keep up pace with the kayfabe stuff as much but hearing the stories about his old man confronting Rock's teenage bullies and his father's subsequent alcohol battles etc was heart-warming. Bret Hart's book is the best one I've read, however Rock's is in second place in front of Jericho's second book (incidentally, how many books does that dude have, churns them out unnecessarily for me!)
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    (Original post by Mackay)
    Oh, and Bad Blood is returning in July. RAW-brand PPV.
    Great ... a show called Bad Blood that won't be allowed to feature any blood.

    At least MITB is now a SmackDown PPV which will prevent Raw from ruining it.
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    The draft will probably happen the night after MITB, I expect.
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    Would rather there be no draft show, or at worst one every few years. Having loads of people switch sides each year makes the split meaningless after a few years. But if they had side-switching as just via trades and 'contracts' expiring, they could solve problems as they come, like for example trading Sasha Banks for American Alpha. Suddenly SD has less of a cluster**** while Raw has a face tag team, and Raw can freshen up their women's division while Smackdown gets some much needed face and heel star power in a division that's almost entirely heels.

    Rather than still not even knowing what they're going to do a week before WrestleMania, and panicing as soon as something changes, like Mickie signing long-term or Naomi getting injured.
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    (Original post by ozzyoscy)
    Would rather there be no draft show, or at worst one every few years. Having loads of people switch sides each year makes the split meaningless after a few years. But if they had side-switching as just via trades and 'contracts' expiring, they could solve problems as they come, like for example trading Sasha Banks for American Alpha. Suddenly SD has less of a cluster**** while Raw has a face tag team, and Raw can freshen up their women's division while Smackdown gets some much needed face and heel star power in a division that's almost entirely heels.

    Rather than still not even knowing what they're going to do a week before WrestleMania, and panicing as soon as something changes, like Mickie signing long-term or Naomi getting injured.
    The thing that's screaming out to me, though, is the severe lack of babyfaces on SmackDown. John Cena is taking extensive time off post-Mania, so who does that leave?

    They could make AJ a babyface - which would be the right call - but Dean Ambrose is stale as a babyface, and needs a heel turn, and Randy Orton has always been better heel. I'd actually like the Miz to turn face personally, because there's a raft of heels: Bray Wyatt, the Miz, AJ Styles, Baron Corbin, Dolph Ziggler etc etc.
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    The 'who can beat Goldberg/Lesnar?' situation is easy to solve. There is one man: GRADOBERG



    (1:10 is when **** gets real)

    Sign him onto Raw and push him to the moon, that'll sort the show out.

    WrestleMania entrance with Madonna = ratings

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    This makes complete and utter sense: http://whatculture.com/wwe/wwe-tease...-as-new-raw-gm
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    A good go-home episode of RAW before WrestleMania, but there were a few disappointments: namely the announcement of the Cruiserweight Championship match being on the pre-show. We saw Austin Aries defeat Noam Dar in a good bout for which Neville was on commentary, before the champion himself beat Jack Gallagher later in the night. It's a shame, really, because it's a great, great match potentially and I am honestly of the opinion it will steal the show.

    There were some interesting developments in the tag arena, too, with Enzo and Cass, Sheamus and Cesaro and Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows clashing with ladders. WWE likes having a ladder match at WM, so will we see their three-way feud be a ladder match? If so, I'm very excited. That'll be a great, fun bout, full of high spots and good action, and I'd also be very tempted to say we could see a Hardy Boyz appearance. But maybe that's wishful thinking.

    I think it's odd the Andre the Giant Memorial Trophy Battle Royal hasn't been showcased more. We saw an over-the-top rope challenge on Monday night (a complete waste of time) featuring Jinder Mahal, Bo Dallas and The Shining Stars, Goldust, R-Truth, Curtis Axel and Braun Strowman. The latter refused to enter the ring, instead waiting to face Show at Mania. I mean, Show deserves a good spot on the card, he's in the shape of his life, and he deserves a fitting farewell on the big stage, but what a waste of Strowman. Likewise, Sami Zayn entered the contest too - a complete waste of his talents, not to mention Samoa Joe's (I thought we were heading to a singles contest between the pair at Mania) after he pinned a distracted Kevin Owens after the match of the night, which saw the duo brawl and violence erupt. It was almost a PPV-esque match-up, and Zayn got the pin when Chris Jericho and Samoa Joe clashed to distract him.

    There were other high spots, mostly centred around talking: Seth Rollins and Triple H's feud got more personal, with the former signing a Hold Harmless agreement to make their match at Mania that bit tastier (I'm worried, though, that WWE's 50/50 booking means HHH is going over after Rollins stood tall following the Game's attempted attack), and Roman Reigns (who teased a heel turn YET AGAIN) clashing with the Undertaker on the mic. Reigns as a heel is just money waiting to be made. He's born for that role, and really, we've seen time and time again how a great babyface can only be a great babyface once they've been a heel. Seeing The Undertaker materialise in the ring was just spine-tingling, and I think their bout could steal the show come Sunday. The lasting image was Goldberg spearing Brock Lesnar, in a defining moment pre-WM. Surely, he'll relinquish the belt Sunday. He has to. Paul Heyman's promo was sterling beforehand, as ever.

    The night started with a fantastic tag team bout, which saw Nia Jax stand tall after she delivered blows to Charlotte, Sasha Banks and Bayley. The match this weekend is an Elimination Fatal 4-Way, so it makes sense for Bayley to pin the two heels before Banks turns heel and costs her the championship, thus strengthening her position as an underdog champion.
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    Watched the Youtube catch up clips but even reading the report, it seemed a fairly standard end with nothing major to shout about. Ending of the final segment suggests Lesnar will be going over like we all know but a brawl might have better built anticipation than a solitary spear.

    It's the match primarily I'm interested in so not expecting it to be long although I do think it'll be around 15mins plus 5min for the entrances etc. WWE might want to make it a shoot style MMA battle or just an out-right brawl with both men using the surroundings incorporated into the match.

    Reigns/Taker was meh, fully expected shenanigans and HHH/Rollins seemed a tad weak. I don't see Rollins winning as he's not fully fit I'd imagine thus extending the feud to carry on during the year.
 
 
 
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