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    (Original post by Falcatas)
    You know what is even better for individuals health? Banning all alcohol and junk food.

    Lets arrest anyone who enters a pub or McDonalds wouldn't we all end up being healthier?

    I don't care whether its better for the NHS, the taxes on alcohol makes up for more what the NHS spends on alcohol related illnesses.

    Perhaps you may find it more comfortable in Saudi Arabia. Much less alcohol there.
    I don't think so. I'm all for the freedom my homeland offers me, ta very much.

    I'm not against banning drink or anything for that matter, all I am pointing out is how bad for society getting plastered is.

    I don't like your comment highlighted above. So its ok for thousands of people not to get their knee replacements or heart ops or whatever because money has been spent on watching over drunks sobering up, facilities at A&E being diverted, not to mention the abuse staff receive and the police having to nanny them when they could be catching criminals elsewhere?
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    I don't think so. I'm all for the freedom my homeland offers me, ta very much.

    I'm not against banning drink or anything for that matter, all I am pointing out is how bad for society getting plastered is.

    I don't like your comment highlighted above. So its ok for thousands of people not to get their knee replacements or heart ops or whatever because money has been spent on watching over drunks sobering up, facilities at A&E being diverted, not to mention the abuse staff receive and the police having to nanny them when they could be catching criminals elsewhere?
    I was being facetious with the first two lines I wrote.

    If you are suggesting that drunks should be responsible for their own behaviour then I agree. Other people should not be forced in paying for others behaviour.

    But this is true how do you defend that millions of people are forced to pay for the knee replacements or heart ops for other people otherwise face the prospect of jail?

    Many of these people will never cost the NHS that much over their lifetime compared to others.
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    (Original post by Falcatas)
    I was being facetious with the first two lines I wrote.

    If you are suggesting that drunks should be responsible for their own behaviour then I agree. Other people should not be forced in paying for others behaviour.

    But this is true how do you defend that millions of people are forced to pay for the knee replacements or heart ops for other people otherwise face the prospect of jail?

    Many of these people will never cost the NHS that much over their lifetime compared to others.

    Compassion for people who are ill?

    Paying taxes to have an NHS so that money is available to pay for the medical needs for people who are in pain, due to no fault of their own?

    I don't think the two are comparable.
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    (Original post by Racoon)
    Compassion for people who are ill?

    Paying taxes to have an NHS so that money is available to pay for the medical needs for people who are in pain, due to no fault of their own?

    I don't think the two are comparable.
    Compassion usually implies it is voluntary. I have no problem with this and commend those who would.
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    Reduce it to 16 would be infinitely more sensible.
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    (Original post by Racoon)
    I think it would be better for society.

    University without the introduction (for many) to booze would be better for everyone in the long run. Better for the individuals health and better for our NHS.
    Most people drink underage anyway so I don't think it would make much difference. I can't imagine how painfully boring uni would be without alcohol


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    (Original post by Wade-)
    Most people drink underage anyway so I don't think it would make much difference. I can't imagine how painfully boring uni would be without alcohol


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    Do they? I don't know if the majority who go to Uni do drink a lot before they go. As Prince William said you either leave uni an alcoholic or married. Why not try to discourage the alcoholic and make uni more about other stuff than drinking?

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...new-york-visit
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    (Original post by Racoon)
    Do they? I don't know if the majority who go to Uni do drink a lot before they go. As Prince William said you either leave uni an alcoholic or married. Why not try to discourage the alcoholic and make uni more about other stuff than drinking?

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...new-york-visit
    My whole group of friends grew up drinking at parties, the same for my girlfriend and most of my best friends from uni. I'm honesty if I met someone at uni who hadn't had alcohol I'd find it strange. Stuff like what?


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    (Original post by Messiah Complex)
    Yes. They should lower the drinking age to 16 so teenagers can get drunk during GCSE exams. That's a great idea. Nothing like swigging a can of Stella whilst doing some trigonometry.
    yeah I agree, but sometimes when my teachers piss me off ill get out the vodka
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    (Original post by cole-slaw)
    Reduce it to 16 would be infinitely more sensible.
    agreed lad
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    I'd rather see people build responsible relationships with alcohol than have it demonised further.

    If parents actually took the time to familiarise themselves with the laws, it would make that transition to adult life a lot easier.

    I'm not advocating getting your 5 year old drunk, but letting a 10/11 year old having a glass of wine at Christmas will do more for their relationship with alcohol than telling them they cannot have it until they're 21.

    Supervised 16 year olds in the pub would be better than the 18th birthday party that roars through the doors because someone can legally buy alcohol at last.
 
 
 
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