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# Graduate Entry Medicine 2017 watch

1. (Original post by Rosser1994)
These were sent to me from a Newcastle admissions admin. Think you might be referring to the undergrad course though:

Please see below for the previous UKCAT cut off score used for A100 and A101 entry.

A100
2011 – 2670
2012 – 2660
2013 – 2780
2014 – 2980
2015 - 2300
2016 - 2730

Unfortunately it does seem to correlate with the averages as the top decile does include the top 10% only that could be a pool of around 2.2k students

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ok, but in your first post you said that the 2180 decile score correlated to the 3070 cut off but that 2180 score does not include DM
the correct score to compare would be 3030

3070/3030 = 1.3%
therefore, if you wanted to project to 2017 then 2190 * 1.013 = 2219
2219/3 = 740 average
2. (Original post by PurpleSquid)
ok, but in your first post you said that the 2180 decile score correlated to the 3070 cut off but that 2180 score does not include DM
the correct score to compare would be 3030

3070/3030 = 1.3%
therefore, if you wanted to project to 2017 then 2190 * 1.013 = 2219
2219/3 = 740 average
Can I just ask where you've got the 3030 off? I'm all up for clarification if it puts my mind at ease haha.
But I've just purely worked it from the averages (so already excluding DM), so the 726 average (2180 w/o DM) equates to the 767 (3070) cutoff. So what I'm saying is if the top decile is rising to 2190 then the cut off is likely to rise with it.

I don't know if that makes much sense, I'm running on 3 hours sleep

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3. (Original post by PurpleSquid)
ok, but in your first post you said that the 2180 decile score correlated to the 3070 cut off but that 2180 score does not include DM
the correct score to compare would be 3030

3070/3030 = 1.3%
therefore, if you wanted to project to 2017 then 2190 * 1.013 = 2219
2219/3 = 740 average
I bet the QR section was easy for you. haha
4. (Original post by JenniB22)
Yes I had an interview with them and got an offer, but obviously I didn't accept so can't help with more specific course questions!

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Can I maybe bombard you with a multitude of questions?
How long a go did you apply, what was your UKCAT Score, what work exp did you do, what did they do/ask at interview, was it MMI or single station, when was your interview and when did you get your offer?

Pls halp

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5. (Original post by Rosser1994)
Can I just ask where you've got the 3030 off? I'm all up for clarification if it puts my mind at ease haha.
But I've just purely worked it from the averages (so already excluding DM), so the 726 average (2180 w/o DM) equates to the 767 (3070) cutoff. So what I'm saying is if the top decile is rising to 2190 then the cut off is likely to rise with it.

I don't know if that makes much sense, I'm running on 3 hours sleep

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from here, the left table, 9th decile, 2013: http://www.ukcat.ac.uk/App_Media/upl...ics%202015.pdf
you used the right table

and no, the 3070 cut off figure DOES include DM as 3070/3 does not equal 767
but 3070/4 = 767 which indicates that they included a 4th section (DM)

if you look at all the cut off figures you quoted and divide by 3 then you'll realise that they've given an average of 4 sections (i.e. DM is included in the total score)
so to give an accurate projection you need to compare it to deciles that also include DM

(Original post by 123ash)
I bet the QR section was easy for you. haha
haha yeah admittedly it was actually my best section
6. (Original post by PurpleSquid)
from here, the left table, 9th decile, 2013: http://www.ukcat.ac.uk/App_Media/upl...ics%202015.pdf
you used the right table

and no, the 3070 cut off figure DOES include DM as 3070/3 does not equal 767
but 3070/4 = 767 which indicates that they included a 4th section (DM)

haha yeah admittedly it was actually my best section
I did use the right table because it removes the DM section and allows you to make a reasonable judgement call regarding the 3 remaining sections. I know it's an average of the 4 sections (I had 890 in QR also ) all I've done is average out the remaining sections as that provides more of a representative of this year. Can you see where I'm coming from at all? 😂
7. (Original post by Rosser1994)
I did use the right table because it removes the DM section and allows you to make a reasonable judgement call regarding the 3 remaining sections. I know it's an average of the 4 sections (I had 890 in QR also ) all I've done is average out the remaining sections as that provides more of a representative of this year. Can you see where I'm coming from at all? 😂
sorry i still fail to see how you arrived to 780 maybe i'm just dumb

but anyway, like i said, i'm not a prospective graduate medic, i'm applying for grad dentistry so it doesn't matter to me hahaha
i just hoped to alleviate some of the panic that you (and others reading this thread) might feel based on (who knows how accurate) projections
8. Had my UKCAT this morning and it went absolutely awful, WAY below what I got in the mocks. Maybe it was my nerves, maybe it was the questions - or both, dunno!

Ended up with an average of only 615 so I think medicine is off the table for next year now by the looks of it, especially for UKCAT unis

My only last hope for next year is Cambridge.
Had my UKCAT this morning and it went absolutely awful, WAY below what I got in the mocks. Maybe it was my nerves, maybe it was the questions - or both, dunno!

Ended up with an average of only 615 so I think medicine is off the table for next year now by the looks of it, especially for UKCAT unis

My only last hope for next year is Cambridge.
why do you feel it went this way?
also... do you have a 1st class degree...d o u think Birmingham may be an option for you?
10. (Original post by Lostperson)
why do you feel it went this way?
also... do you have a 1st class degree...d o u think Birmingham may be an option for you?

The questions just seemed a lot harder than the mocks, especially AR. On Medify I usually 5/5 every question no problem. That was my weakest today, I only got 590.

I dont think Medify gives a good representation of whats in the final exam, at least in my experience anyways.

Yeah I have a first class degree in Biomed but Birmingham is not an option unfortunately because they want A-levels. But I don't have any (I did a foundation year at Uni instead). They wont accept the foundation year as a substitute either even though its to A-level equivalency.
The questions just seemed a lot harder than the mocks, especially AR. On Medify I usually 5/5 every question no problem. That was my weakest today, I only got 590.

I dont think Medify gives a good representation of whats in the final exam, at least in my experience anyways.

Yeah I have a first class degree in Biomed but Birmingham is not an option unfortunately because they want A-levels. But I don't have any (I did a foundation year at Uni instead). They wont accept the foundation year as a substitute either even though its to A-level equivalency.
I thought came wanted a levels too? I see... yeh its a bit of a toughie...I guess....maybe if you apply to 5 year courses, in terms of funding, could you cope with that?

AR was bad for me too last year, I have 14 days left till my ukcat. I think modify isn't a good representation either.
12. (Original post by Lostperson)
I thought came wanted a levels too? I see... yeh its a bit of a toughie...I guess....maybe if you apply to 5 year courses, in terms of funding, could you cope with that?

AR was bad for me too last year, I have 14 days left till my ukcat. I think modify isn't a good representation either.

Cambridge accept alternatives to the same level, which my foundation year counts as thankfully.

I won't be using Medify again if I have to/decide to as it just wasn't accurate.

What do you use to revise? I used Medify solely.

I wish you the best of luck for UKCAT btw!
Cambridge accept alternatives to the same level, which my foundation year counts as thankfully.

I won't be using Medify again if I have to/decide to as it just wasn't accurate.

What do you use to revise? I used Medify solely.

I wish you the best of luck for UKCAT btw!
I used medify last year solely too!! Got 650. This year I've been using the Isc book and I made some notes for qr from last year which got me 730 in the exam so sticking to those . For Vr I'm using a variety of sources including medify and ukcat ninja . Aww thank you I need i this is my 3rd time applying.
14. (Original post by Lostperson)
I used medify last year solely too!! Got 650. This year I've been using the Isc book and I made some notes for qr from last year which got me 730 in the exam so sticking to those . For Vr I'm using a variety of sources including medify and ukcat ninja . Aww thank you I need i this is my 3rd time applying.

Not heard of UKCAT Ninja, I'll have to have a ganders at it! ... 3rd times a charm, I'm sure you'll be fine.

Sorry just realised I forgot to answer your earlier questions, but unfortunately no I can't afford to fund 5 year medicine. Plus my GCSE's are nothing special at all, I dont think I even got one A back in school, I didn't like hard work back then at all haha.

If I have to apply again next year I'll do the BMAT and apply for Oxford and Imperial. As well as the UKCAT.

If both those fail I'll just study in Europe instead.
15. Hi all,

first year GEM here (yay!) so I was in your shoes this time last year. Good luck getting those applications in. If you haven't already seen it get yourself over to figure 1. Its an app on smart phones with tons of clinical cases designed for students to learn using real examples, plus it gives you an idea for what interests you. It's free and really easy to use.

Good luck with the applications and any questions drop me a PM
16. (Original post by neuronerd)
Hi all,

first year GEM here (yay!) so I was in your shoes this time last year. Good luck getting those applications in. If you haven't already seen it get yourself over to figure 1. Its an app on smart phones with tons of clinical cases designed for students to learn using real examples, plus it gives you an idea for what interests you. It's free and really easy to use.

Good luck with the applications and any questions drop me a PM
This is a great app and I recommend it to everyone I work with! Very interesting cases across a wide range of specialities.
17. Anyone know people with 2:1 that got into Bart's? Seems like it's pointless to no matter how high your UKCAT to apply. Some guy on another thread had 800+ and a 2:1 and didn't even get an interview.

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18. This is a dumb question, but some other student said something to make me panic so I thought to task.

Im second year biomed,
So i would apply in third year to start after I graduate, and not applying in second year, as someone just tried to convince me?

Ty

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19. (Original post by Rasillon)
This is a dumb question, but some other student said something to make me panic so I thought to task.

Im second year biomed,
So i would apply in third year to start after I graduate, and not applying in second year, as someone just tried to convince me?

Ty

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You absolutely do not need to apply now, you apply just as you start 3rd year.. ignore whoever told you that.
20. (Original post by rayrk)
Anyone know people with 2:1 that got into Bart's? Seems like it's pointless to no matter how high your UKCAT to apply. Some guy on another thread had 800+ and a 2:1 and didn't even get an interview.

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