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    (Original post by high)
    How does Cambridge look at getting your degree from a non Russell group university? Will you still have any chance even if you have a 1st?
    Don't know about that but from last year I do remember they wanted certain minimum A level grades, think it was AAA? With an A in Chem? Make sure you check that out if you decide to go for Cambridge... Or even email or ring them up, they're super nice
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    (Original post by Cuts92)
    Ah ok, obviously depends where you apply. I think the best option is to have a strategy for where you want to apply then 'tailor' your approach to that end goal. Good luck with the PS, my advice would be to avoid cliches and use your own style to your advantage also don't list off attributes! select a few that you can back up with solid examples from experience.
    (Original post by FA_600)
    I've found if you're tired of doing your personal statement and/or out of ideas, then taking a break for a couple of days and coming back to it helps a lot!

    Also in the meantime try and have a read of other personal statements wherever you can find them. It doesn't have to be medicine, although medicine ones would be helpful. This will give you ideas which you can just note down somewhere such as your phone or a notepad, while thinking about how you can present similar ideas with respect to your degree or work experience etc.

    Then just come back to your document and work through it.

    Hope this helps!


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    Thanks, it's all really good advice. I was off-sick from work for a few days, and I'm really bad for recovering in front of the PC rather than bed. Being back at work should refresh me, how ironic, lol

    I'm trying desperately to avoid cliches but having the ISC personal statement book and a million other examples from the internet everything seems to have been done!! I'm just trying to comfort myself with the fact that people get interviews with PSs full of ideas that have been repeated before, I mean, there is a common string of traits admissions are looking for in prospective doctors after all...
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    (Original post by Lilibee)
    Thanks, it's all really good advice. I was off-sick from work for a few days, and I'm really bad for recovering in front of the PC rather than bed. Being back at work should refresh me, how ironic, lol

    I'm trying desperately to avoid cliches but having the ISC personal statement book and a million other examples from the internet everything seems to have been done!! I'm just trying to comfort myself with the fact that people get interviews with PSs full of ideas that have been repeated before, I mean, there is a common string of traits admissions are looking for in prospective doctors after all...
    The ISC book is very helpful for getting ideas. Yes it seems like they're all the same and yours is no different, but that's where the personal aspect of it comes in. For example thousands of people discuss the same skills and have similar ideas, but what makes each statement different is how it relates to their personal motivation to become a doctor.

    For example one person might enjoy the challenging aspect of the job, in which case they may link their work experience to taking on challenges, which prepares them to study medicine. It's a way for you to sell yourself.

    You just need to ask yourself why possessing a particular skill would make you a better doctor? Or how you you can develop a skill further to better prepare you for medicine? And discuss that.

    Hope you find that helpful.


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    Hey Guys,

    I am a graduate with a 1st in BSc Biomedical Sciences and just waiting for MSc results. A levels were terrible.
    Did my UKCAT and got:
    VR 530
    QR 670
    AR 700
    SJ Band 1

    Average of 633 :/ Not sure if this is good enough for either GEM or 5 year course?
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    (Original post by Lilibee)
    While you are waiting (if you haven't done so already) write a very polite list of things that you want your referee to emphasise on in their reference of you (and give information they might not necessarily know about you, but feel they should for the reference). They will need to submit your reference before the deadline on the 15th October, so giving them a few pointers will go a long way. Just remember to be realistic about what you are asking them to write!
    That's a really good idea. Thanks!

    I might end up just writing an autobiography of my life but hey!

    (Original post by Lilibee)
    Who else is tearing their hair out over their personal statement?

    I feel like I'm the only one because I can't seem to find anyone else talking about it, haha. I'm finding myself on TSR a lot more because I keep tabbing out of Word to stop looking at that damn document
    I've finished it but everytime I look at it, I feel the urge to scrap it and start again. I might edit it a little bit but I'm trying to keep it as it is right now otherwise I'll spend the next two weeks rewriting it every few minutes.

    (Original post by NafNaf39)
    Oh crap.

    Its been nearly a month for me and I'm still waiting...may have to go and ask a nurse I've worked with?

    I'm finding University staff super inefficient... would have thought at least somebody would have replied, but no.



    How is the PS coming along?
    No offence but from my experience, if you're waiting a month, they won't be replying. Have you sent a nice little reminder e-mail? Maybe they didn't see the email. I might send one again but right now I'm just going to email the head of the law school to ask if she can get me in touch with my former tutor.

    Yeah they are inefficient. Maybe it's just me but I tend to reply to stuff quickly and when it comes to writing things up, I'm pretty fast. I would say it's my background but I'm not sure. The barristers from my uni were useless at emails and stuff while the solicitors would reply within a minute of an email and they all have law degrees. I guess people reflect the jobs they are in. Most hospital staff are not going to be reading and writing at a high level and will probably use three word sentences so I doubt they'd be checking their emails constantly and they probably get loads so they might get buried.

    I actually used to write personal statements in college for pocket money since my EMA wouldn't cover everything. I think I wrote over 20 PS and I think two or three were for medicine but Inever kept copies saved on my files so yeah.

    It's going okay though. I'm pretty much done with it but it makes me nervous so I'm trying not to look at it too much.

    I think I'll be emailling the volunteer manager actually. She seems busy all the time but I might ask if I can meet with her to make things easier. So I can at least speak to her and give her some scope of what to write.

    But I constantly feel like I'm bothering people. I never had this until my last job where my manager would shout and blame me for everything even if I wasn't working a particular day.

    And this email has started to feel like a therapy session. Sorry
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    (Original post by paniking_and_not_revising)
    That's a really good idea. Thanks!

    I might end up just writing an autobiography of my life but hey!



    I've finished it but everytime I look at it, I feel the urge to scrap it and start again. I might edit it a little bit but I'm trying to keep it as it is right now otherwise I'll spend the next two weeks rewriting it every few minutes.



    No offence but from my experience, if you're waiting a month, they won't be replying. Have you sent a nice little reminder e-mail? Maybe they didn't see the email. I might send one again but right now I'm just going to email the head of the law school to ask if she can get me in touch with my former tutor.

    Yeah they are inefficient. Maybe it's just me but I tend to reply to stuff quickly and when it comes to writing things up, I'm pretty fast. I would say it's my background but I'm not sure. The barristers from my uni were useless at emails and stuff while the solicitors would reply within a minute of an email and they all have law degrees. I guess people reflect the jobs they are in. Most hospital staff are not going to be reading and writing at a high level and will probably use three word sentences so I doubt they'd be checking their emails constantly and they probably get loads so they might get buried.

    I actually used to write personal statements in college for pocket money since my EMA wouldn't cover everything. I think I wrote over 20 PS and I think two or three were for medicine but Inever kept copies saved on my files so yeah.

    It's going okay though. I'm pretty much done with it but it makes me nervous so I'm trying not to look at it too much.

    I think I'll be emailling the volunteer manager actually. She seems busy all the time but I might ask if I can meet with her to make things easier. So I can at least speak to her and give her some scope of what to write.

    But I constantly feel like I'm bothering people. I never had this until my last job where my manager would shout and blame me for everything even if I wasn't working a particular day.

    And this email has started to feel like a therapy session. Sorry
    Yeah I have sent a couple of reminders to them all and ones just replied now saying she can't do it...grr....

    Wow! you must have loads of experience then and I'm sure your PS will end up being amazing. I've always been conscious of my English so just constantly worrying whether I've got my grammar and sentence structure correct.

    Email your volunteer manager, normally the place you volunteer for are really good with references as they really appreciate you taking your time out to help out their organisation

    And don't fret about bothering people, if you need help or a hand you need it. Simples. So never back down just because you need a hand, hopefully you'll be in a position to return the favour to someone else. That other sad person who'd vent out on you isn't even worth thinking about. Close that chapter and think about all the amazing things you'll be able to do once you get your application sorted and are on your way to med school

    I don't mind it being a therapy session, I like listening to people and trying to help as I know how even the smallest of things can eat away at you.

    Apologies for the massive message :P and for any errors.
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    (Original post by NafNaf39)
    Yeah I have sent a couple of reminders to them all and ones just replied now saying she can't do it...grr....

    Wow! you must have loads of experience then and I'm sure your PS will end up being amazing. I've always been conscious of my English so just constantly worrying whether I've got my grammar and sentence structure correct.

    Email your volunteer manager, normally the place you volunteer for are really good with references as they really appreciate you taking your time out to help out their organisation

    And don't fret about bothering people, if you need help or a hand you need it. Simples. So never back down just because you need a hand, hopefully you'll be in a position to return the favour to someone else. That other sad person who'd vent out on you isn't even worth thinking about. Close that chapter and think about all the amazing things you'll be able to do once you get your application sorted and are on your way to med school

    I don't mind it being a therapy session, I like listening to people and trying to help as I know how even the smallest of things can eat away at you.

    Apologies for the massive message :P and for any errors.
    Why did she say no?

    Not really. It's a bit shoddy and doesn't flow as wel as I hoped it would.

    Yeah the volunteer manager is kind of my last hope. If she doesn't reply then I'll probably be looking to apply next year instead.

    Thanks. I try to forget my former manager but since he's delaying my job reference and keeps saying he hasn't gotten it, I have to keep calling him up or visiting him at his workplace lol.

    No probs.
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    I just don't understand why it's so difficult to get references these days, people just aren't willing to do you a favour. U have to chase people just for references for 1 application.
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    (Original post by paniking_and_not_revising)
    Why did she say no?

    Not really. It's a bit shoddy and doesn't flow as wel as I hoped it would.

    Yeah the volunteer manager is kind of my last hope. If she doesn't reply then I'll probably be looking to apply next year instead.

    Thanks. I try to forget my former manager but since he's delaying my job reference and keeps saying he hasn't gotten it, I have to keep calling him up or visiting him at his workplace lol.

    No probs.
    She just made some lame excuse

    Hm I'm sure you'll get there.

    God that sucks. Hopefully you don't have to take a year out Don't know who else you can ask to be honest :/

    That manager seems like a real pain in the butt Maybe bribe him/her with chocolates? Saying you really appreciate him doing your reference and that may make him/her move faster into doing your reference? Or do you reckon that may not work? :/ I've tried that once and it's worked :P
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    (Original post by Akz18)
    Hey Guys,

    I am a graduate with a 1st in BSc Biomedical Sciences and just waiting for MSc results. A levels were terrible.
    Did my UKCAT and got:
    VR 530
    QR 670
    AR 700
    SJ Band 1

    Average of 633 :/ Not sure if this is good enough for either GEM or 5 year course?
    I don't think you have a chance for GEM courses tbh. Can't say much on the 5 year courses :/ as some unis expect you to have certain minimum A level grades as well.

    Have you sat the GAMSAT? Or are you sitting the BMAT?
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    Is general consensus that VR is a *****?


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    Thanks for the reply, is this still the case if u gave a first class degree? No, but I'm considering it GAMSAT for March now.
    (Original post by NafNaf39)
    I don't think you have a chance for GEM courses tbh. Can't say much on the 5 year courses :/ as some unis expect you to have certain minimum A level grades as well.

    Have you sat the GAMSAT? Or are you sitting the BMAT?
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    (Original post by Akz18)
    Thanks for the reply, is this still the case if u gave a first class degree? No, but I'm considering it GAMSAT for March now.
    I don't think you do tbh with that UKCAT score. However, do check with Barts or I think it was Queens? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think if you have a 1st or a masters it can compensate for a slightly lower UKCAT. I could be wrong though as it was a while back I looked.

    Also, have you considered Birmingham? Or are you A-level grades not good?
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    (Original post by NafNaf39)
    I don't think you do tbh with that UKCAT score. However, do check with Barts or I think it was Queens? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think if you have a 1st or a masters it can compensate for a slightly lower UKCAT. I could be wrong though as it was a while back I looked.

    Also, have you considered Birmingham? Or are you A-level grades not good?
    Barts would massively favour your first, but looking at their recent thresholds (and with the average for this year looking to increase via the interim) it might not be worth it.. if you've got good A-levels etc I'd recommend wasting the £20 and applying
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    (Original post by Rosser1994)
    Barts would massively favour your first, but looking at their recent thresholds (and with the average for this year looking to increase via the interim) it might not be worth it.. if you've got good A-levels etc I'd recommend wasting the £20 and applying
    Do you by any chance know what their thresholds were this year?
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    (Original post by neuronerd)
    Newcastle I'd say you are better off resitting the UKCAT and applying next year. This year the cut off was well in the 700s and the band 3 will really go against you.

    http://www.ncl.ac.uk/mbbs/admissions...Thresholds.pdf

    It's pretty similar with Southampton, they are very UKCAT heavy and rank all applicants in order of UKCAT then do interview invites from the top.

    In your shoes I'd take the year out and apply next year (as you are already taking the year out anyway)

    Just my two cents though
    Thanks for your help but as I have a guaranteed interview at BSMS, I have to make an application so may as well apply to three other places. Good luck with it all.
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    (Original post by JenniB22)
    Honestly I would avoid Southampton and Newcastle. Your ukcat isn't quite high enough since they shortlist based entirely on ukcat.


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    Thank you! I think I'll reconsider those two.
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    What is the deal with Warwick?
    I've got a 640 VR and a 743 overall average.
    What's happened in previous years? Is it the overall applying average or the 5th decile UKCAT average?
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    (Original post by Rosser1994)
    What is the deal with Warwick?
    I've got a 640 VR and a 743 overall average.
    What's happened in previous years? Is it the overall applying average or the 5th decile UKCAT average?
    those are amazing scores and from what I've seen of previous years you should be absolutely fine to apply to Warwick! Do you have any tips for VR? Im struggling a lot with VR *and with QR, seems impossible for me to get a high score given the difficulty of the questions on the ukcat website for qr
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    (Original post by ellen111)
    those are amazing scores and from what I've seen of previous years you should be absolutely fine to apply to Warwick! Do you have any tips for VR? Im struggling a lot with VR *and with QR, seems impossible for me to get a high score given the difficulty of the questions on the ukcat website for qr
    Here's hoping!
    I cannot recommend enough the Kaplan UKCAT book (search for it on Amazon) it's much cheaper than one of their events and I kinda feel like you'd get just as much out of it!
    The tips are good for VR and it covers all of the QR. Only thing that's a little lacking is AR
 
 
 
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