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Should annie and james bond be black Watch

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    I care about things being what they're supposed to be. If there's one thing I dislike it's 'modern updates'.

    Annie should be a pale ginger girl. Because that's who Annie is.

    Bond should be a white man, because Bond should be a secret agent for England in cold-war times. Bond slowly swayed from this whilst Brosnan played him and the films Craig plays in aren't really recognisable as Bond films to me; they're much more serious-action than the classic bonds. So I guess a black guy doing it now really doesn't matter, but I'd certainly prefer the films going back to the original feel they had.
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    (Original post by Gwilym101)
    Except that Bonds family is not commented on until the second to last novel which came out after Dr. No and Connery's performance influenced Fleming in how he wrote him including giving him scottish ancestry.

    Fleming said Bond looked like Hoagy Carmichael and none of the actors that have played bond have looked like him.

    Plus the films have never really cared about continuity, for instance the Craig films make no reference to the fact that he is a Commander in the Navy (whereas numerous previous films he gets referred to as Commander Bond).
    The films don't have internal continuity - of course they don't, otherwise Bond would be about 90 years old by now. But why would you assume that the character history (except for his birthdate) changes? He's Commander Bond in the novels, he's Commander Bond in the pre-Craig films - why on earth would anyone assume that he has an unmentioned alternate history just because he's not referred to by rank - it might be a characterisation thing. Maybe it was because Judi Dench thought it was inappropriate, as her M was a civilian whilst the others (including Ralph Fiennes) portray military officers.
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    (Original post by Clip)
    The films don't have internal continuity - of course they don't, otherwise Bond would be about 90 years old by now. But why would you assume that the character history (except for his birthdate) changes? He's Commander Bond in the novels, he's Commander Bond in the pre-Craig films - why on earth would anyone assume that he has an unmentioned alternate history just because he's not referred to by rank - it might be a characterisation thing. Maybe it was because Judi Dench thought it was inappropriate, as her M was a civilian whilst the others (including Ralph Fiennes) portray military officers.
    Well A) his backstory is completely irrelevant to most of the films (skyfall pretty much being the one exception).
    B) Even being black he could still have a father from scotland.
    C) Most film goers before skyfall came out didn't know any of bonds backstory.
    D) If the author didn't care to write a backstory for the character until his second to last novel, why should film makers or goers regard his backstory as set in stone?
    E) Also the Craig films are effectively a reboot as Casino Royale has him earn his 00 status, so why not reboot them again to have a black actor?
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    Well my thoughts on James Bond being black don't bother me as long as they cast the guy because he's well suited for the damn part. If it's just because he's black and they have some white guilt bull**** then don't. Although they should be prepared for controversy.
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    (Original post by Kittiara)
    I have no problem with it. They're fictional characters. Movies tend to be different than the novels they are based on, and it's not unusual for a character on the screen to look different to how they were described by the original author. If an actor or actress fits the part, that's what matters.

    It's different, of course, when an actor or actress is meant to portray a real person and they look very different to them. I can't imagine a 6 ft tall black Queen Elizabeth II or a pale, blonde haired blue-eyed President Obama.
    Sometimes fictional characters have a particular ingrained image in popular imagination due to their portrayal in books and films and such. I'd bet more people have heard of James Bond than Shinzo Abe, even though the former doesn't exist and the latter is one of the most powerful men on earth. The reason a black Bond 'wouldn't work' is the same reason an all-black Famous Five or an Asian Tintin wouldn't work, or why a white person playing a fictional slave in 1800s America would seem a little odd.
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    I honestly couldn't care less the race of James Bond. The next one would be a Klingon for all I care.

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    (Original post by Rhadamanthus)
    Sometimes fictional characters have a particular ingrained image in popular imagination due to their portrayal in books and films and such. I'd bet more people have heard of James Bond than Shinzo Abe, even though the former doesn't exist and the latter is one of the most powerful men on earth. The reason a black Bond 'wouldn't work' is the same reason an all-black Famous Five or an Asian Tintin wouldn't work, or why a white person playing a fictional slave in 1800s America would seem a little odd.
    Terrible comparison because movie's about American slavery are historical and race is such a key component; the other examples you gave don't rely on race for their existence, even if traditionally they were white characters, their characterisation isn't based on the fact they're white.
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    Makes no difference that black guy who might replace him is a good actor

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    I'm White and connect with Halle Berry playing Angela on Boomerang on a spiritual level.
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    Cringe people care so much about this. Get a grip, they're fictional characters.
 
 
 
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