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Employing people with convictions eg rape

I dont understand why anyone would employ someone with a conviction eg for rape. In Scotland there is an advert basically saying that being over the drink drive limit will make you unemployable so don't drink drive.

I wouldn't employ a handyman who was a convicted burgler, i wouldnt be comfortable with a doctor , nurse, physio etc who had a criminal conviction taking care of me

As an employer in any field id go for people of good character ie those who have never committed a criminal offence especially one such as rape. These people are not hard to find

Why is it people seem to think its ok for a convicted rapist to be given a very high salaried job regardless of whether he has served his time or not i completely dont understand unless there is absolutely noone else who can do the job

If i am ever in the position of recruiting for a job then i'm sorry but people with such convictions would get nowhere as i just wouldn't trust them :frown:

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I do not know why scum of the earth rapists are allowed to walk the streets ? As far as. i am concerned rapists are the most disgusting abhorrant people on earth and they should die in jail
Original post by hi2u_uk
I dont understand why anyone would employ someone with a conviction eg for rape. In Scotland there is an advert basically saying that being over the drink drive limit will make you unemployable so don't drink drive.

I wouldn't employ a handyman who was a convicted burgler, i wouldnt be comfortable with a doctor , nurse, physio etc who had a criminal conviction taking care of me

As an employer in any field id go for people of good character ie those who have never committed a criminal offence especially one such as rape. These people are not hard to find

Why is it people seem to think its ok for a convicted rapist to be given a very high salaried job regardless of whether he has served his time or not i completely dont understand unless there is absolutely noone else who can do the job

If i am ever in the position of recruiting for a job then i'm sorry but people with such convictions would get nowhere as i just wouldn't trust them :frown:


It depends what job your employing for.

But you'd be breaking the law by not giving them the opportunity.
I watched a documentary a while back about this Japanese bloke in France who murdered and cannibalised a woman he was at uni with.
Due to some sort of legal loophole he was convicted but didn't have to serve a sentence- in fact he is still free now. Anyway it said that he had applied for over 10,000 jobs and was turned down for every single one apart from a job in a school of all places, because the headmaster admired his honesty in using his real name on the application. Just before he was able to start, other members of staff protested against it and thankfully kept him out!


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Original post by -Native Briton-
I do not know why scum of the earth rapists are allowed to walk the streets ? As far as. i am concerned rapists are the most disgusting abhorrant people on earth and they should die in jail


I tend to hold that view on intolerant liberals.
Original post by MatureStudent36
I tend to hold that view on intolerant liberals.


Its liberals that will probably be telling us that rapists need cuddles and our support into intergrating them into society
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Original post by hi2u_uk
I dont understand why anyone would employ someone with a conviction eg for rape. In Scotland there is an advert basically saying that being over the drink drive limit will make you unemployable so don't drink drive.

I wouldn't employ a handyman who was a convicted burgler, i wouldnt be comfortable with a doctor , nurse, physio etc who had a criminal conviction taking care of me


For tradesmen, look for registered ones who are part of council run schemes, they are often crb checked. Doctors are very unlikely to have any criminal convictions. Nurses etc., might have minor convictions, but why would of nurse convicted of being drunk and disorderly be any less capable of discharging their duties?

Original post by hi2u_uk

As an employer in any field id go for people of good character ie those who have never committed a criminal offence especially one such as rape. These people are not hard to find


You wouldn't get to find out. If someone's conviction is spent, they are thought to be rehabilitated and the conviction should be ignored. It's far better that rapists etc are employed in some form rather than living of the state for their life.

Original post by hi2u_uk

Why is it people seem to think its ok for a convicted rapist to be given a very high salaried job regardless of whether he has served his time or not i completely dont understand unless there is absolutely noone else who can do the job


At the end of the day, it's the employer's decision who they employ. If the conviction is spent, you cannot count it against them.

Why would it not be ok for a convicted rapist to be given a high salaried job?
Original post by pjm600
If the conviction is spent, you cannot count it against them.


True, however some convictions are never 'spent', and there are some jobs where they still have to be disclosed.

Why would it not be ok for a convicted rapist to be given a high salaried job?


Depends on what the job is.
Reply 8
Original post by unprinted
True, however some convictions are never 'spent', and there are some jobs where they still have to be disclosed.



Depends on what the job is.


The OP made it sound like rapists should be barred from earning over a certain amount, which I thought sounded a little strange...
Reply 9
They need to either work or be given benifits. I would rather they were working.
Original post by MatureStudent36
It depends what job your employing for.

But you'd be breaking the law by not giving them the opportunity.


Only if the conviction is spent. I don't think a rape conviction can be spent.
Let them work, why shouldn't they be allowed to work?

I don't want more of my tax money being wasted on taking care of them when they are perfectly capable of working and giving something back to society.
Reply 12
i will tell you one thing i wouldnt employ them because i wouldnt trust them and they would risk bringing my organisation into disrepute.Noone is going to look favourably on a company that employs criminals and ex cons . It just amazes me how relaxed some people are on this issue.


I flat share and specifically when advertising spare rooms we always ask if people have any criminal convictions. I dont care if its spent or obtained in Poland i just dont want to live or be anywhere near ex rapists, theives, drug dealers or downloaders of illegal porn etc. We need to start getting tough on criminals and emphasise that it is not OK to commit a crime or put yourself in a position where you could reasonably be associated with a crime

This ched evans was given a chance which many people in this country dream of, he should get lost there are many decent up and coming footballers who would never be associated with rape and who would take better advantage of the chance of success he has had
Original post by hi2u_uk
i will tell you one thing i wouldnt employ them because i wouldnt trust them and they would risk bringing my organisation into disrepute.Noone is going to look favourably on a company that employs criminals and ex cons . It just amazes me how relaxed some people are on this issue.


I flat share and specifically when advertising spare rooms we always ask if people have any criminal convictions. I dont care if its spent or obtained in Poland i just dont want to live or be anywhere near ex rapists, theives, drug dealers or downloaders of illegal porn etc. We need to start getting tough on criminals and emphasise that it is not OK to commit a crime or put yourself in a position where you could reasonably be associated with a crime

This ched evans was given a chance which many people in this country dream of, he should get lost there are many decent up and coming footballers who would never be associated with rape and who would take better advantage of the chance of success he has had


So you think they should go on benefits for the rest of their life?
Reply 14
Original post by DiddyDec
So you think they should go on benefits for the rest of their life?

Absolutely fine with me just keep them totally away from me. i have no interest in being anywhere near a criminal be they on my street or in my work or study place. Also note that most criminals reoffend in this country. I have no problem with the benefits system in this country at all and am quite happy that we give money to the unemployed/unemloyable. The alternative is to have poor people roaming the streets in the same way as they do in africa or asia or in the early 18th century which seems to be what david camerons ideology is.
Luckily for criminals we are in the EU so criminals can now freely cross borders without people checking these things
Depends on the job, wouldn't want a rapist or murderer working as a nurse.
Original post by hi2u_uk
I dont understand why anyone would employ someone with a conviction eg for rape. In Scotland there is an advert basically saying that being over the drink drive limit will make you unemployable so don't drink drive.

I wouldn't employ a handyman who was a convicted burgler, i wouldnt be comfortable with a doctor , nurse, physio etc who had a criminal conviction taking care of me

As an employer in any field id go for people of good character ie those who have never committed a criminal offence especially one such as rape. These people are not hard to find

Why is it people seem to think its ok for a convicted rapist to be given a very high salaried job regardless of whether he has served his time or not i completely dont understand unless there is absolutely noone else who can do the job

If i am ever in the position of recruiting for a job then i'm sorry but people with such convictions would get nowhere as i just wouldn't trust them :frown:


If they're rehabilitated then why not? People can change. If you immediately write off anyone who has made mistakes in their life, you'll be losing a lot of potential talent.
Reply 17
Original post by tupper_ware
Depends on the job, wouldn't want a rapist or murderer working as a nurse.


Again i dont buy this. If the public find out your business is staffed by ex convicts i bet a fair few will go else where. If you employ women are you seriously saying the majority would be happy working with a convicted rapist ? would your staff who are parents be happy working with someone convicted of downloading illegal porn ? i just wouldnt be comfortable knowing the guy serving me in tesco had raped people
Reply 18
Original post by Chlorophile
If they're rehabilitated then why not? People can change. If you immediately write off anyone who has made mistakes in their life, you'll be losing a lot of potential talent.

i fail to see how anyone at any point in their life would think that raping someone was an accident it shows extremely bad judgement in my opinion which is the sort of talent i wouldnt mind loosing
Original post by hi2u_uk
i fail to see how anyone at any point in their life would think that raping someone was an accident it shows extremely bad judgement in my opinion which is the sort of talent i wouldnt mind loosing


Rape quite obviously isn't "an accident", but I also don't think it has to necessarily define a person for the rest of their life. It's an awful crime and they obviously have to be punished but if they've clearly shown remorse and have been rehabilitated, I don't see the problem with giving them another chance.

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