University Entry- harder if your from private school?

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Is it true that it is harder to gain a place to university if you have been in private education all your life, particularly if you have come from the top public schools e.g Eton? I only mention this because I remember there being quite a lot about it in the papers a while back, about a girl who had been turned down and put it down to applying from a state school...something along those lines.
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Eton and Oxbridge go hand in hand - but from a private school applying to Warwick, Bristol and Nottingham - far more dastardly admissions process
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Universities have quotas of state school applicants they should admit, so sometimes they do turn away private school people, but I don't know if i would go as far as to say it is "harder" for them.
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Eton and Oxbridge thing by the way is not true and I think its unfair you say that.
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(Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
Universities have quotas of state school applicants they should admit, so sometimes they do turn away private school people, but I don't know if i would go as far as to say it is "harder" for them.
But if a university only aims to admit 50% state school pupils, it will still be relatively easy for independent school pupils to fill the remaining 50% - given how small a proportion of the school population they make up.
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Universities have quotas of state school applicants they should admit, so sometimes they do turn away private school people, but I don't know if i would go as far as to say it is "harder" for them.
the ******* universities i mentioned above were at the centre of a huge scandal last year with regard to admissions of private school pupils - anyway i am happy they didnt admit me because now i am on my way to a far better university
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Eton and Oxbridge thing by the way is not true and I think its unfair you say that.
why? do you go to Eton or another established boarding school?
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the ******* universities i mentioned above were at the centre of a huge scandal last year with regard to admissions of private school pupils - anyway i am happy they didnt admit me because now i am on my way to a far better university
Which one would that be? If you don't mind me asking.
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why? do you go to Eton or another established boarding school?
I think it would be 'unwise' to say which school I go to but all of my family went to boarding schools and yes one of them was Eton.
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(Original post by hobbs)
I think it would be 'unwise' to say which school I go to but all of my family went to boarding schools and yes one of them was Eton.
not totally 'unwise' because i doubt people on this forum will be compelled enough to pay you a visit ... but other than that i believe whole-heartedly that the path for Etonians towards successful Oxbridge application is far easier than that of many other schools in this country. I have been at two private schools - both of a very high standard = but the first one had far better connections with Oxbridge being as it was also a boarding school in Holland Park - the second was more for Essex pupils and therefore couldnt have been as highly regarded by Oxbridge
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We had 8 applicants from our state school to oxbridge and only 1 got in. I think the private schools are looking for an excuse as to why the parents are paying god knows how much and don't get into oxbridge. The problem is the state schools getting better.
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(Original post by Ollie)
We had 8 applicants from our state school to oxbridge and only 1 got in. I think the private schools are looking for an excuse as to why the parents are paying god knows how much and don't get into oxbridge. The problem is the state schools getting better.
i dont agree with that necessarily - oxbridge is certainly elitist but i dont think it follows that every private school is in a better position - depends what college you apply to - unfortunately i applied to Fitzwilliam, Cambridge which seems to have far more state-school applicants than private school ones
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Well sometimes parents don't pay just for the results they pay for what is going to look better on the old CV,..........sad but true
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(Original post by hobbs)
Well sometimes parents don't pay just for the results they pay for what is going to look better on the old CV,..........sad but true
good thing i didnt pay then ... (scholarship/assisted place) but undoubtedly university applications and results in general are helped by going to a top school
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(Original post by Kurdt Morello)
i dont agree with that necessarily - oxbridge is certainly elitist but i dont think it follows that every private school is in a better position - depends what college you apply to - unfortunately i applied to Fitzwilliam, Cambridge which seems to have far more state-school applicants than private school ones
Yes, my brother applied to oxbridge and cambridge (from 'a well-known public boys school') after getting amazing results and didn't get into either, he's alright though, in the end went to Yale. Surely it's only fair that if you have paid for school you should get more advantage because there is more competition from those at private schools to get into the top uni's........just a thought
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(Original post by hobbs)
Yes, my brother applied to oxbridge and cambridge (from 'a well-known public boys school') after getting amazing results and didn't get into either, he's alright though, in the end went to Yale. Surely it's only fair that if you have paid for school you should get more advantage because there is more competition from those at private schools to get into the top uni's........just a thought
perhaps ... but there arent as many options open to people who lack the means ... it should be done purely on the merits of results and inclination towards someone's personality rather than their bank balance or status school
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(Original post by Ollie)
We had 8 applicants from our state school to oxbridge and only 1 got in. I think the private schools are looking for an excuse as to why the parents are paying god knows how much and don't get into oxbridge. The problem is the state schools getting better.
i'm in a state school and we had about 8:1 with oxbridge too.
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(Original post by hobbs)
Yes, my brother applied to oxbridge and cambridge (from 'a well-known public boys school') after getting amazing results and didn't get into either, he's alright though, in the end went to Yale. Surely it's only fair that if you have paid for school you should get more advantage because there is more competition from those at private schools to get into the top uni's........just a thought
Why should it be fair to get an advantage just by paying for your education?
Oh, and "oxbridge and cambridge"? Whatever do you mean?
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true but at the end of the day this is England.......meaning we love the whole class thing!
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(Original post by hobbs)
Surely it's only fair that if you have paid for school you should get more advantage because there is more competition from those at private schools to get into the top uni's
ummm.. why?
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