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    Was listening to TalkSport last night and Graham Poll was on ****ging off the state of refereeing in this country currently.

    There DOES seem to be a contrast between the level of refereeing within the PL and, say, the Champions League. There was a stage when the UK was the cream of the crop in terms of officiating, but there seems to be more and more mistakes being made with some referees (Mike Jones springs to mind) who are actively viewed as weak.

    To combat this, should more former players be targeted to enroll and train as referees? It happens a lot in other sports (cricket, rugby) and it would offer an alternative route for players who lack coaching/managerial expertise to stay within the game.

    Would you be open to this?

    How else do you think the FA can battle the declining standard of refereeing?
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    Don't think that could work, referees are supposed to be impartial and unbiased so you could never have them in charge of a game that involves one of their former clubs (or one of their rivals - e.g you'd never have Gary Neville refereeing a Liverpool match). Easy if you're a Gerrard or Terry who's spent most of their career with the same club, but what about those who've played for multiple teams?
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    I agree with sr90 but also how can we expect former players, who physically are not capable enough anymore, to be fit enough to keep up with play as a ref.

    It would help massively if the FA decided on one way of refereeing games. It seems that the English pride themselves on footballers kicking the hell out of each other and at low level ref's tend to let it go, as you move up through the ladder though it because more and more strict and then English teams get to the CL and have no idea what the refs are doing despite UEFA broadcasting their guidelines.
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    The positive is players are refs means they probably understand some aspects of the game than refs and might be able to relate to players more but as noted above, will be tricky finding players to ref games who they've not played for and bias concerns.

    Also, why would players become a ref when they've got a cushy job in the media awaiting them? Or potentially a coaching career.
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    Give the refs more technical assistance.
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    There's no money in it though...
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    (Original post by sr90)
    Don't think that could work, referees are supposed to be impartial and unbiased so you could never have them in charge of a game that involves one of their former clubs (or one of their rivals - e.g you'd never have Gary Neville refereeing a Liverpool match). Easy if you're a Gerrard or Terry who's spent most of their career with the same club, but what about those who've played for multiple teams?
    Even so you're potentially going to be running into players you knew for 10+ years after retiring from the game and get accused of either carrying a grudge or doing your mates a favour.

    obviously former players grudges can persist a long time http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...continues.html
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    I'd go for ex-players as fourth officials, but no more.

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    (Original post by addylad)
    I'd go for ex-players as fourth officials, but no more.

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    mmm.

    Fourth official has to take over if the ref or one of the linos are incapacitated... wouldn't happen every week but it'd happen eventually.
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    Yes. But as said above, The pay is so ridiculously low they wouldn't need to bother. Plus Referees only Ref until 40ish. So once a player has retired (Average about 35?) By the time they gain the qualifications & experience. Its pointless.
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    Do we need to make the pay more enticing then?
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    (Original post by Vintage)
    Yes. But as said above, The pay is so ridiculously low they wouldn't need to bother. Plus Referees only Ref until 40ish. So once a player has retired (Average about 35?) By the time they gain the qualifications & experience. Its pointless.
    Not necessarily, some go on for a lot longer. Phil Dowd is 51 and overweight yet he still referees in the Premier League!
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    (Original post by sr90)
    Not necessarily, some go on for a lot longer. Phil Dowd is 51 and overweight yet he still referees in the Premier League!
    Yeah but he would have had 10 years starting from the bottom up to the Premiership. Most football ref's would be 45+ by the time they get up to the standard.
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    (Original post by Vintage)
    Yeah but he would have had 10 years starting from the bottom up to the Premiership. Most football ref's would be 45+ by the time they get up to the standard.
    He's been a Premier League referee for a very long time. He's been around since the days of Graham Barber and Paul Durkin.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30704681

    Former referees' chief Hackett criticises 'appalling' standards.
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    (Original post by Mackay)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30704681

    Former referees' chief Hackett criticises 'appalling' standards.
    Wouldn't take his opinion so strongly. He frequently makes mistakes in his "you are the ref" Guardian thing.

    OT: As sr90 said it would be hard to remove the bias out of the game. Plus, what if they were to ref a former team-mate? That would never work.

    Also, if you listen to some of the punditry from former players some times its embarrassing.



    I do however think that youth academy players could benefit from the experience in that they might give the ref's a bit of slack when they become professionals.
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    Another shambolic day for refereeing, really.

    They are making mistakes time and time again, and I know that the nature of the beast these days means that we put them under scrutiny, but there were dreadful calls across all the divisions.
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    Takes a minimum of seven years to achieve PL standard refereeing qualifications from scratch, so unless it's a player who has been forced to end their career early (and even then, why would they take up a physically intensive job?) I can't see it being a workable idea.
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    The only way to make real improvements on refereeing is to introduce video replays for the refs. Doesn't matter if you have ex-pros or not, they're still humans with one set of eyes so they'll still be fallible to mistakes.
 
 
 
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