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I'm studying maths and further maths this year and am in year 12. (OCR)

We have finished C1 and D1 both of which I have found relatively easy and have done the majority of M1 which I have found slightly harder.

How much of a step up (if any) is FP1 from the other AS modules?

We have finished C1 and D1 both of which I have found relatively easy and have done the majority of M1 which I have found slightly harder.

How much of a step up (if any) is FP1 from the other AS modules?

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How much of a step up (if any) is FP1 from the other AS modules?

**GM16**)How much of a step up (if any) is FP1 from the other AS modules?

It is very easy imo and it's very realistic if you're good at maths to get full marks.

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Back in my day, it was really hard. Had loads of hard integration. Then they made it really easy.

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I'm studying maths and further maths this year and am in year 12. (OCR)

We have finished C1 and D1 both of which I have found relatively easy and have done the majority of M1 which I have found slightly harder.

How much of a step up (if any) is FP1 from the other AS modules?

**GM16**)I'm studying maths and further maths this year and am in year 12. (OCR)

We have finished C1 and D1 both of which I have found relatively easy and have done the majority of M1 which I have found slightly harder.

How much of a step up (if any) is FP1 from the other AS modules?

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It's more like C2 (and the other core modules in comparison to the mech/stats/decision).

It is very easy imo and it's very realistic if you're good at maths to get full marks.

**MathMeister**)It's more like C2 (and the other core modules in comparison to the mech/stats/decision).

It is very easy imo and it's very realistic if you're good at maths to get full marks.

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Personally, I found it the hardest of the X1 units. A million times more difficult than C2, I honestly don't know where MathMeister is coming from.

**Chlorophile**)Personally, I found it the hardest of the X1 units. A million times more difficult than C2, I honestly don't know where MathMeister is coming from.

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**GM16**)

I'm studying maths and further maths this year and am in year 12. (OCR)

We have finished C1 and D1 both of which I have found relatively easy and have done the majority of M1 which I have found slightly harder.

How much of a step up (if any) is FP1 from the other AS modules?

C1 C2 D1 FP1 M1

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I have just finished FP1, its not that hard at all. Initially it may take a while to understand the concepts as its all quite new but after going through a few examples of each question type and some past papers you should be fine (I prefer it to D1 simply as its more interesting although quite a bit harder, I find FP1 easier than M1)

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I've done about 50% of it earlier this year (I'm in Year12 too). It's quite easy when you get the hang of it, imaginary numbers, matrices etc are what I like to call alternative maths. Sequences and proof by induction looked a bit hard though. From the modules I've taken so far I'd put it :

C1 C2 D1 FP1 M1

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**MrJAKEE**)I've done about 50% of it earlier this year (I'm in Year12 too). It's quite easy when you get the hang of it, imaginary numbers, matrices etc are what I like to call alternative maths. Sequences and proof by induction looked a bit hard though. From the modules I've taken so far I'd put it :

C1 C2 D1 FP1 M1

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**Chlorophile**)

Personally, I found it the hardest of the X1 units. A

__million__times more difficult than C2, I honestly don't know where MathMeister is coming from.

To OP, Chlorophile:

Yeah it is a big strange some of the content, however some of it (i.e. numerical methods and coordinate systems are a piece of cake I find)

Also there are two series chapters which definitely not hard.

None of the concepts are hard to grasp really and when you cover it formally in class it will seem far easier (probably)

I would agree it's harder than C2 but then again C2 isn't remotely hard to begin with imho... :/

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a million times srsly??

To OP, Chlorophile:

Yeah it is a big strange some of the content, however some of it (i.e. numerical methods and coordinate systems are a piece of cake I find)

Also there are two series chapters which definitely not hard.

None of the concepts are hard to grasp really and when you cover it formally in class it will seem far easier (probably)

**MathMeister**)a million times srsly??

To OP, Chlorophile:

Yeah it is a big strange some of the content, however some of it (i.e. numerical methods and coordinate systems are a piece of cake I find)

Also there are two series chapters which definitely not hard.

None of the concepts are hard to grasp really and when you cover it formally in class it will seem far easier (probably)

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I think the problem with the FP units is that they're new. Whereas the core units are pretty much building on the same thing (and mechanics is pretty similar in that respect too), there's a lot of new stuff in FP. Looking back at FP1 now I honestly don't know how I found any of the stuff hard (yet I still managed to lose a mark ) but I remember clearly that it was the unit I found the most difficult.

**Chlorophile**)I think the problem with the FP units is that they're new. Whereas the core units are pretty much building on the same thing (and mechanics is pretty similar in that respect too), there's a lot of new stuff in FP. Looking back at FP1 now I honestly don't know how I found any of the stuff hard (yet I still managed to lose a mark ) but I remember clearly that it was the unit I found the most difficult.

Doesn't Fp2/3 build up kind of on C3/4 calculus? I haven't done Fp2/3 yet but it looks like it may require the same skills brought up by A2 maths.

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Yeah. Still better than mechanics I find because I can look at the question and know exactly what to do like with core whereas for example mechanics is setting up the situation and solving the problem.

Doesn't Fp2/3 build up kind of on C3/4 calculus? I haven't done Fp2/3 yet but it looks like it may require the same skills brought up by A2 maths.

**MathMeister**)Yeah. Still better than mechanics I find because I can look at the question and know exactly what to do like with core whereas for example mechanics is setting up the situation and solving the problem.

Doesn't Fp2/3 build up kind of on C3/4 calculus? I haven't done Fp2/3 yet but it looks like it may require the same skills brought up by A2 maths.

I've done all of the core units, two mechanics units and all the X1 units and I can honestly say that FP2 is a different world. I'm better at Maths this year than I was last year so I've not got any major problems but purely in terms of the difficulty, it's not even comparable to C3 and C4. The complex numbers, for instance, is waaaaay harder than the complex numbers in FP1 and whilst the calculus chapters do build on the C3 and C4 calculus, the harder questions make the core units look like a

*total*joke. I love FP2, the calculus is really fun, but the top-end questions are genuinely hard.

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I've done all of the core units, two mechanics units and all the X1 units and I can honestly say that FP2 is a different world. I'm better at Maths this year than I was last year so I've not got any major problems but purely in terms of the difficulty, it's not even comparable to C3 and C4. The complex numbers, for instance, is waaaaay harder than the complex numbers in FP1 and whilst the calculus chapters do build on the C3 and C4 calculus, the harder questions make the core units look like a

**Chlorophile**)I've done all of the core units, two mechanics units and all the X1 units and I can honestly say that FP2 is a different world. I'm better at Maths this year than I was last year so I've not got any major problems but purely in terms of the difficulty, it's not even comparable to C3 and C4. The complex numbers, for instance, is waaaaay harder than the complex numbers in FP1 and whilst the calculus chapters do build on the C3 and C4 calculus, the harder questions make the core units look like a

*total*joke. I love FP2, the calculus is really fun, but the top-end questions are genuinely hard.
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But once I properly finish C3/4 I will find fp2/3 approachable rightl? Just that the complex numbers looks very hard to understand same as the 2nd odes, 1st odes are mainly fine looking though. Other stuff looks easy though like mod graphs, Taylor and maclaurin and method of differences. amirite?

**MathMeister**)But once I properly finish C3/4 I will find fp2/3 approachable rightl? Just that the complex numbers looks very hard to understand same as the 2nd odes, 1st odes are mainly fine looking though. Other stuff looks easy though like mod graphs, Taylor and maclaurin and method of differences. amirite?

Methods of differences and mod graphs are easy. Taylor and Maclaurin I've only just started. It's easy so far, I don't know if it gets harder.

With 1st and 2nd order differentials, most of the stuff is easy but the hard stuff is HARD. In both of them, whilst 90% of the questions are easy, the 10% that isn't is genuinely difficult. There are a couple of monstrous questions in both chapters. Lots of fun though!

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**GM16**)

I'm studying maths and further maths this year and am in year 12. (OCR)

We have finished C1 and D1 both of which I have found relatively easy and have done the majority of M1 which I have found slightly harder.

How much of a step up (if any) is FP1 from the other AS modules?

**MathMeister**)

But once I properly finish C3/4 I will find fp2/3 approachable rightl? Just that the complex numbers looks very hard to understand same as the 2nd odes, 1st odes are mainly fine looking though. Other stuff looks easy though like mod graphs, Taylor and maclaurin and method of differences. amirite?

Complex numbers are simple and elegant once you get used to them.

The 2nd order ODEs are tricky in the exam, but you can just follow an algorithm so it's not too bad. It's just recognising what to do where. 1st order are easy.

The rest of it you mentioned is straightforward.

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