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    I have been pondering this question, and I don't have an answer.

    Can anyone answer this, give your perspective...
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    From my perspective:

    People that agree with me are sane. Obviously.

    People that do not agree with me, or behave in ways I would not, are insane. Obviously.
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    (Original post by Simes)
    From my perspective:

    People that agree with me are sane. Obviously.

    People that do not agree with me, or behave in ways I would not, are insane. Obviously.
    Well that would mean that is no such thing then. So what is the point of mental hospitals and psychotherapists etc?
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    I heard that what make someone insane is doing the same thing over again expecting a different outcome.

    What if we are all doing it?
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    (Original post by NHM713)
    I heard that what make someone insane is doing the same thing over again expecting a different outcome.
    God damn you, I was about to come in here quoting Far Cry 3
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    (Original post by mackemforever)
    God damn you, I was about to come in here quoting Far Cry 3
    My bad. I'm not familiar with Far Cry 3, do elaborate.
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    (Original post by NHM713)
    Well that would mean that is no such thing then
    You would say that. You're insane.




    (Original post by NHM713)
    So what is the point of mental hospitals and psychotherapists etc?
    Ah, a different question. They will be filled with the people who disagree with society's current opinions or behave other than society currently expects. The professionals therein will then try to fill the heads of those sent there with opinions that are permitted, and train them to exhibit behaviours the professionals find acceptable.

    In other countries we call them re-education camps.

    Thus we shall eliminate thoughtcrime.
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    (Original post by Simes)
    You would say that. You're insane.




    Ah, a different question. They will be filled with the people who disagree with society's current opinions or behave other than society currently expects. The professionals therein will then try to fill the heads of those sent there with opinions that are permitted, and train them to exhibit behaviours the professionals find acceptable.

    In other countries we call them re-education camps.

    Thus we shall eliminate thoughtcrime.
    Haha, maybe I am, but, I'm starting to think there is no such a thing, and I've been to a mental hospital (just to visit by the way).

    That's scary, re-education camp:spank:, we already have schools.
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    (Original post by NHM713)
    I heard that what make someone insane is doing the same thing over again expecting a different outcome.

    What if we are all going it?

    For some reason, I always found that quote limited in nature. It does not define the scope of "doing the same thing", and it is easily subject to interpretation. For example, in arcades, if I test my luck at those plush toy grabbers and I keep doing it over and over again and failing, would I be considered "insane" if I expected to win?

    I feel that concepts such as "sanity" and "insanity" are largely socially-constructed. Anyone who behaves in a manner that deviates from the social norm is considered "insane". Anyone who conforms to the boundaries considered appropriate to society is considered "sane". Stuff we do today may be considered "insane" if we did it five hundred years ago.

    I guess there is also a biological factor involved. People with mental illnesses like Schizophrenia are unable to control themselves. I would argue that the difference between sanity and insanity, if we look beyond the definitions implemented by society, comes down to the level of lucidity that the person in question has.
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    Inb4 far cry 3 reference-oh wait...
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    The difference between sanity and insanity is completely subjective, or perhaps, moulded by society.

    Have a read of Rosenhan's study. Sanity and insanity is distinguished by a medical book.
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    (Original post by NHM713)
    Well that would mean that is no such thing then. So what is the point of mental hospitals and psychotherapists etc?
    From Simes point of view, for anyone who disagrees with Simes.
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    (Original post by Nogoodsorgods)
    From Simes' point of view, for anyone who disagrees with Simes.
    Yes! That's right! I can confirm you are sane!

    Come and join me in celebration by disembowelling a virgin on the pyramid's altar and then eating her beating heart in honour of the feathered serpent that made the universe. Then the queen will cut herself all over and ride round, bleeding, so people can see how mighty she is, followed by the priests whipping themselves until they bleed. After all, that's what we normal people do.
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    (Original post by Simes)
    Yes! That's right! I can confirm you are sane!

    Come and join me in celebration by disembowelling a virgin on the pyramid's altar and then eating her beating heart in honour of the feathered serpent that made the universe. Then the queen will cut herself all over and ride round, bleeding, so people can see how mighty she is, followed by the priests whipping themselves until they bleed. After all, that's what we normal people do.
    Did that come from your own imagination? I don't know, I'm starting to question your sanity.
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    (Original post by I Procrastinate)
    The difference between sanity and insanity is completely subjective, or perhaps, moulded by society.

    Have a read of Rosenhan's study. Sanity and insanity is distinguished by a medical book.
    Will do.
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    (Original post by NHM713)
    Did that come from your own imagination? I don't know, I'm starting to question your sanity.
    Perfectly normal, everyday behaviour for pre-Christian South American people (plus some modern stuff such as flagellation). Were they insane? Only by modern Western values.
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    (Original post by Simes)
    Perfectly normal, everyday behaviour for pre-Christian South American people. Were they insane? Only by modern Western values.
    Nothing's real, is it?
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    (Original post by NHM713)
    Nothing's real, is it?
    Only what's in your head. And that is merely sensory perception and deduction coloured by what your parents and teachers told you.

    It was sane to torture and kill your own slaves as after-dinner light entertainment in 18th century Haiti.

    It was considered sane to torture people until they confessed to anything.

    The "death by a thousand cuts" to ensure you could not go to the afterlife intact was considered sane as a punishment.

    Apparently it is sane to machine-gun a room full of people because someone in that room at some time in the past drew nasty pictures about a dead man you respect.

    It was sane to execute the innocent family members of criminals in China and even parts of Europe until the mid 20th century.

    It was sane a hundred years ago to watch Fred clamber over the top when the whistle blew and see him shot, then watch Bill clamber over the top when the whistle blew and see him shot, then, when the whistle blew, step forward and clamber over the top. It was also sane to keep blowing the whistle.

    It is sane to stand on a piece of flat ground and say "I cannot walk forward from this point because it is a different country" even though there are no obstructions. It is sane to accept this, even though the line - that is not there - has moved many times over the centuries and wasn't even there for the first 100s of millions of years of the Earth. The line is in your head, people, only in your head.

    Apparently - you'll love this one - apparently some people will accept a piece of paper with the picture of some old woman's head on it in exchange for food! :rofl:
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    (Original post by Simes)
    Only what's in your head. And that is merely sensory perception and deduction coloured by what your parents and teachers told you.

    It was sane to torture and kill your own slaves as after-dinner light entertainment in 18th century Haiti.

    It was considered sane to torture people until they confessed to anything.

    The "death by a thousand cuts" to ensure you could not go to the afterlife intact was considered sane as a punishment.

    Apparently it is sane to machine-gun a room full of people because someone in that room at some time in the past drew nasty pictures about a dead man you respect.

    It was sane to execute the innocent family members of criminals in China and even parts of Europe until the mid 20th century.

    It was sane a hundred years ago to watch Fred clamber over the top when the whistle blew and see him shot, then watch Bill clamber over the top when the whistle blew and see him shot, then, when the whistle blew, step forward and clamber over the top. It was also sane to keep blowing the whistle.

    It is sane to stand on a piece of flat ground and say "I cannot walk forward from this point because it is a different country" even though there are no obstructions. It is sane to accept this, even though the line - that is not there - has moved many times over the centuries and wasn't even there for the first 100s of millions of years of the Earth. The line is in your head, people, only in your head.

    Apparently - you'll love this one - apparently some people will accept a piece of paper with the picture of some old woman's head on it in exchange for food! :rofl:
    How did you know! That is laughable. I do think it is insane that we have to pay for basic necessities like shelter, food (like you said) and water. MADNESS!

    What kind of world are we living in?
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    I want to start a thread posting all the crazy things (by today's standard) that have ever happened.

    I could start it here I suppose. ....anyone ever heard of Tulip mania?
 
 
 
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