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Hi there, thought it will be good to initiate a thread for mphil REF at Cambridge. If you guys do not mind, kindly share your profiles and updates on the admission process.



To start off, here's mine (which isn't really strong)

Doing PPE and have been achieving first class for the past two years.
Internships at developer firms for past 2 summers and an incoming one this summer.

Cheers!
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Durham Finance student

72% achieved in second year. Spring weeks at HSBC & J.P. Morgan. Summer internships in Private Equity & Equity Research. No specific Real Estate focussed work experience though.

Applied in November, no response thus far.

Cheers for the post honggg.
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Accounting and Finance student with a 1st in both years. Summer internship in IBD at an investment bank. No real estate education/work experience.

Applied in November. No response.

Out of curiosity, is this your first choice program?

Good luck!
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Hi thanks for response, both profiles look great tbh, with a strong background in finance and internships. Just submitted my app last week but quite worried as I do not have a strong quantitative background. Majoring in economics for my final year though so hope that helps.

And yes, it is my first choice program, initially wanted to go for Mphil econs which would have been easier given my course but decided against it because I wanted to go straight into the real estate industry.

How abt you guys?
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I think your profile is definitely stronger than mine. I have no association with the RE industry.

I am unsure about the MPhil in REF tbh. It does seem very interesting but I am worried about being pigeon-holed into RE.

I've also applied for the MPhil in Finance but it is very competitive and I doubt my profile stacks up.
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I think your profile is definitely stronger than mine. I have no association with the RE industry.

I am unsure about the MPhil in REF tbh. It does seem very interesting but I am worried about being pigeon-holed into RE.

I've also applied for the MPhil in Finance but it is very competitive and I doubt my profile stacks up.
Tbh, I think your lack of re experience doesn't count against you since with ref you can go into real estate ib and things like m&a. Kinda understand your uncertainty since REF is pretty specialized, but dun think it will restrict your career options. You might have to start off in real estate but I am pretty sure you can get transfers along the way esp since REF is pretty quantitative. I assume you have applied to schools like lse for finance related masters as well.

Gd luck anw!
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Hi all,

Hold a first for undergrad in maths and philosophy. Did a MSc in management and strategy for which I achieved a merit and distinction for my thesis. Completed internships in transport and commodity consulting. Worked for 1.5 years in valuation and modelling of a big 4 firm with a real estate advisory focus.

Applied in Oct 2014 and no news.

Best of luck with all your applications!
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Hi all,

Hold a first for undergrad in maths and philosophy. Did a MSc in management and strategy for which I achieved a merit and distinction for my thesis. Completed internships in transport and commodity consulting. Worked for 1.5 years in valuation and modelling of a big 4 firm with a real estate advisory focus.

Applied in Oct 2014 and no news.

Best of luck with all your applications!
Out of curiosity why are you doing this MPhil now?
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The simple reason is I would like to specialise in real estate and coming from a generalist background, this course provides a very good platform for me to build on. 2/3 years ago, I didn't really know which industry I wanted to focus on but having the experience I do in real estate advisory certainy convinced me to apply.

How bout you? What's ur reason for applying?
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Bcom and MFin from Canada. Worked in Global IB in HK for 1y doing equity structuring and Regional IB in SEA for 3y doing debt syndication.

Just submitted application. Heard decision are only made during May/June and college admission can take up to another 6 weeks. Seems pretty long compared to some other majors don't you think?
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Don't think the majority will only hear in June or July. March or April seems more realistic. As of now, you could say no news is good news.

It seems most applicants on this thread are studying.

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Bcom and MFin from Canada. Worked in Global IB in HK for 1y doing equity structuring and Regional IB in SEA for 3y doing debt syndication.

Just submitted application. Heard decision are only made during May/June and college admission can take up to another 6 weeks. Seems pretty long compared to some other majors don't you think?
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Hey all!

Just curious, what kind of other programmes you are applying to?

For me, two programmes focus on real estate; all the other programmes are related to finance or economics.
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Only applied to this course. Which other real estate programme you considering?

(Original post by fusunny)
Hey all!

Just curious, what kind of other programmes you are applying to?

For me, two programmes focus on real estate; all the other programmes are related to finance or economics.
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Interesting point raised by F4N about being pigeon-holed. I was very concerned about that too because i'd ideally like to end up at an IB in a Corporate Finance role rather than a Real Estate specific role. My motivation to do the course is based on a hunger to learn rather than end up in the field, at least straight after graduation. Having followed on LinkedIn where a lot of the previous candidates have gone it looks quite promising. A fair proportion, id say 3/5 have gone into Finance roles rather than Real Estate specific jobs following graduation. Conjointly, a friend of graduated last year from the course and ended up in J.P. Morgan's S&T division.

The data published on Cambridge's website does give a basic idea of where people end up, however it is extremely outdated. I think if you've done a Finance/eco undergrad and then do the course there's far less chance of you being 'boxed-in' to RE because you have transferrable skills. You will just have to justify at interview why you aren't pursuing a career in Real Estate.
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Just to add a bit of personal experiences, my friend studied REF and unfortunately, when it came to applying for a graduate job in IB, she was allocated interviewers who worked in REIB.
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It's a good course from the perspective of both a stepping stone to real estate and IB. However, given the title of the course it's not unusual for employers to look at your profile with an inclination towards a real estate role.

Anyone heard anything recently? The waiting is painful...

(Original post by F4N)
Just to add a bit of personal experiences, my friend studied REF and unfortunately, when it came to applying for a graduate job in IB, she was allocated interviewers who worked in REIB.
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My application is still awaiting consideration by the department. I reckon it will be considered only in feb/march. Any repeat applicants?


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Has anyone emailed the school or the department? Hoping they can at least give a more realistic and precise indication of waiting time. Does anyone know anyone with an offer already?

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Don't think the majority will only hear in June or July. March or April seems more realistic. As of now, you could say no news is good news.

It seems most applicants on this thread are studying.
I think thats quite preposterous haha I was seeing other threads (econ finance etc...) and their offer seem to be rolling in...

It seems most people are applying to actually land an IB job and not actually wanting to pursue a career in RE. makes sense i suppose
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Anyone know when the board will meet again to discuss applications?

Don't see why anyone should restrict themselves to a particular career. Just a thought though, would an applicant intending to go into real estate be viewed more favourably?

(Original post by hungryman)
I think thats quite preposterous haha I was seeing other threads (econ finance etc...) and their offer seem to be rolling in...

It seems most people are applying to actually land an IB job and not actually wanting to pursue a career in RE. makes sense i suppose
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