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Why is the UK becoming like America?

First of all im NOT anti-american. But what i am against is the american ways creaping into the UK. The main one that jumps out is the celebration of Halloween, thats overblown and not like it used to be. Then we are losing our own language!, such things like 24/7 and shuddup already WHAT!?!? Theres tons more stuff like that but i cant think of anymore, maybe you can help me out. And also, does anyone agree that our country is starting to lose its values and customs now? Please discuss :smile:

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Reply 1

afcwill
First of all im NOT anti-american. But what i am against is the american ways creaping into the UK. The main one that jumps out is the celebration of Halloween, thats overblown and not like it used to be. Then we are losing our own language!, such things like 24/7 and shuddup already WHAT!?!? Theres tons more stuff like that but i cant think of anymore, maybe you can help me out. And also, does anyone agree that our country is starting to lose its values and customs now? Please discuss :smile:

Who says that??

Reply 2

naivesincerity
Who says that??


EVERYONE! They always said it at my sixth form and all that "talk to the hand" stuff as well, ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHH! :biggrin:

Reply 3

afcwill
EVERYONE! They always said it at my sixth form and all that "talk to the hand" stuff as well, ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHH! :biggrin:


Jesus. Actually, stuff like 'hardcore' and 'all that jazz' I'm aware of around me. Yes, I'm with you, said in a UK accent it is very grating.

Reply 4

naivesincerity
Jesus. Actually, stuff like 'hardcore' and 'all that jazz' I'm aware of around me. Yes, I'm with you, said in a UK accent it is very grating.


Its just when i watched 'The Royle Family' i thought, thats what were all like and why are we pretending we are someone else, whcih got me thinking about this thread.

Reply 5

Its called cultural cross-pollination - hardly new - hardly a big deal

Reply 6

afcwill
Its just when i watched 'The Royle Family' i thought, thats what were all like and why are we pretending we are someone else, whcih got me thinking about this thread.


Well yeah, although there's huge variation in what we're like within the UK. Most Londoners, even working class Londoners, probably wouldn't feel to much in common with those people for example. The north/south divide is just one that's pretty pronounced.

Reply 7

Lawz-
Its called cultural cross-pollination - hardly new - hardly a big deal


No its not. I havent heard Americans saying brilliant or spiffing! And it is a big deal because were losing our identity

Reply 8

You must not think very highly of Britain if you think those few words define British culture.

Reply 9

Bismarck
You must not think very highly of Britain if you think those few words define British culture.


ME???? Thats why im doing a thread on it :rolleyes: The Royle family was more of a joke than anything else. I think highly of Britain more than i do anything hence why im so concerned about the transition

Reply 10

Read somewhere that one in four speakers of English speaks American English. It's sheer volume of cultural output I guess.

Reply 11

afcwill
No its not. I havent heard Americans saying brilliant or spiffing! And it is a big deal because were losing our identity


Are you trying to tell me that British Culture has had no effect on the USA?
Ever heard of the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Coldplay? Jude Law?

Reply 12

Merovingian
Read somewhere that one in four speakers of English speaks American English. It's sheer volume of cultural output I guess.


Thats an interesting fact

Reply 13

Lawz-
Are you trying to tell me that British Culture has had no effect on the USA?
Ever heard of the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Coldplay? Jude Law?


I think he's talking linguistically

Reply 14

Lawz-
Are you trying to tell me that British Culture has had no effect on the USA?
Ever heard of the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Coldplay? Jude Law?


Wrong end of the stick, im talking about verbally not musically or theatrically. Im just referring to the language and nothing else

Reply 15

Groovy, shag, etc

I could think of more - but I can't be ****ed.

Reply 16

People in the U.S. say the word 'brilliant', but not the word 'spiffing'. I had no idea 'brilliant' was a solely British word.

That said, I assume you guys in Britain get all the crap movies that come spewing out of Hollywood each year? I assume you guys get some of our cruddy tv shows? How about our cruddy reality tv shows?

People are influenced by what they see on television. A lot of people watch a lot of television, and if you watch it for hours every day and hear the same things, you are likely to pick things up. Kind of like how I started saying "aye" at the end of sentances when I was living in Canada.

I hardly think that the sayings and words people use in Britain mean that Britain is becoming just like the U.S. I doubt that Britain is not influenced by the U.S., but the U.S. being such a big country with such a large influence, there is hardly any place in the world not influenced by us. If you want to complain, complain about McDonalds, Dominos Pizza, Papa Johns, and various other chains that have spread their way across your country. Complain about the fact that American movies and TV shows are shown on your televisions (if they are that is).

Words don't mean much, in my opinion.
But maybe I'm just saying that because I live in NYC, and it seems I am introduced to new language every day - whether from another language entirely, 'ebonics' (e.g. non-English English made up by 'ghetto' people), or just...English words that I am not familiar with
Nothing wrong with it.

*edit* P.S. Halloween is fun! Maybe people just enjoy dressing up and getting/giving out free candy...

Reply 17

Ink
People in the U.S. say the word 'brilliant', but not the word 'spiffing'. I had no idea 'brilliant' was a solely British word.

That said, I assume you guys in Britain get all the crap movies that come spewing out of Hollywood each year? I assume you guys get some of our cruddy tv shows? How about our cruddy reality tv shows?

People are influenced by what they see on television. A lot of people watch a lot of television, and if you watch it for hours every day and hear the same things, you are likely to pick things up. Kind of like how I started saying "aye" at the end of sentances when I was living in Canada.

I hardly think that the sayings and words people are use in Britain mean that Britain is becoming just like the U.S. I doubt that Britain is not influenced by the U.S., but the U.S. being such a big country with such a large influence, there is hardly any place in the world not influenced by us. If you want to complain, complain about McDonalds, Dominos Pizza, Papa Johns, and various other chains that have spread their way across your country. Complain about the fact that American movies and TV shows are shown on your televisions (if they are that is).

Words don't mean much, in my opinion.
But maybe I'm just saying that because I live in NYC, and it seems I am introduced to new language every day - whether from another language entirely, 'ebonics' (e.g. non-English English made up by 'ghetto' people), or just...English words that I am not familiar with
Nothing wrong with it.


With all due respect Ink, you live in the US and so it is difficult for you to comment on life in the UK, im not bothered at all by companies because thats just globalisation and that happens everywhere. Its just that even in the UK, like at Man Uniteds ground, since its been taken over by the Glazers they have americanised it all apparently (according to my cousin) and he said that the club doesn't feel British anymore, just stuff like that.

Reply 18

afcwill
ME???? Thats why im doing a thread on it :rolleyes: The Royle family was more of a joke than anything else. I think highly of Britain more than i do anything hence why im so concerned about the transition


How do Brits using a handful of American words undermine British culture? Heck, at least a fourth of your language is French and another fourth German. There are hundreds of words that were used in Britain a few centuries ago that aren't used today and vice versa. To claim that the British language is being undermined by the use of half a dozen American words is simply ludicrous.

afcwill
With all due respect Ink, you live in the US and so it is difficult for you to comment on life in the UK, im not bothered at all by companies because thats just globalisation and that happens everywhere. Its just that even in the UK, like at Man Uniteds ground, since its been taken over by the Glazers they have americanised it all apparently (according to my cousin) and he said that the club doesn't feel British anymore, just stuff like that.


Stop being such a blatant xenophobe. The only thing that's different about Man U is that it's on first place.

Reply 19

Bismarck
How do Brits using a handful of American words undermine British culture? Heck, at least a fourth of your language is French and another fourth German. There are hundreds of words that were used in Britain a few centuries ago that aren't used today and vice versa. To claim that the British language is being undermined by the use of half a dozen American words is simply ludicrous.

I dont think you understand my point at all! The French and German is just evolution, are you trying to say that in 100 years time well all be saying "chill" and all that! And its not just the words either, a lot of things in the UK are becoming Americanised.