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The 'white person does x so all whites should apologise' fallacy watch

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    Sick of hearing this from religious apologists. White is not an ideology. White supremacist is, but that isn't subscribed to by the majority of whites.

    Did anyone blame black people for Woolwich?
    Does anyone blame atheist arabs for attacks by arab terrorists?
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    The 'muslim person does x so all muslims should apologise' fallacy
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    I think you've missed the point.

    The idea is to display how ridiculous it is to judge over a billion people solely on the actions of a few, ideology or not.

    Three are many muslims liberals who keep their religion to themselves and so to say that these people are responsible for this heinous crime IS as ludicrous as the proposition that all white people are responsible for the actions of so and so.
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    As someone who isn't white and is from a miniority background, I also think that is rubbish. That sort of mentality is just stupid, it's usually always the people who seem to be too sensitive about everything and get offended too quickly.
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    (Original post by BullViagra)
    The 'muslim person does x so all muslims should apologise' fallacy
    Except they share an ideology, a manifesto (the quran) and often on pressing them they aren't as liberal as they claim.

    No one would ever say 'not all BNP members are racist, just the ones that happen to get caught saying racist things that happen to coincide with the party manifesto'
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    (Original post by BullViagra)
    The 'muslim person does x so all muslims should apologise' fallacy
    Amen brother
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    (Original post by Xenorebrem)
    I think you've missed the point.

    The idea is to display how ridiculous it is to judge over a billion people solely on the actions of a few, ideology or not.

    Three are many muslims liberals who keep their religion to themselves and so to say that these people are responsible for this heinous crime IS as ludicrous as the proposition that all white people are responsible for the actions of so and so.
    But these billion people are united by an ideology that allows such heinous acts. Every muslim who has left their faith (as I left christianity) automatically exempts themselves from any such criticism.

    Not every avid supporter of the Third Reich committed crimes against humanity...
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    (Original post by BullViagra)
    The 'muslim person does x so all muslims should apologise' fallacy
    I think saying all Muslims should apologies is a huge over simplification. But frankly extremism is an issue Islam as a whole faces. These warped ideologies come from an interpretation of the Quran. The only way to really fight against that is to get moderate Muslims involved in repudiating those ideologies.

    So far the extremists have been far too successful in being able to cast the conflict between them and the Western world as a general war against Muslims. Despite the fact that other Muslims are their primary targets.
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    (Original post by Xenorebrem)
    I think you've missed the point.

    The idea is to display how ridiculous it is to judge over a billion people solely on the actions of a few, ideology or not.

    Three are many muslims liberals who keep their religion to themselves and so to say that these people are responsible for this heinous crime IS as ludicrous as the proposition that all white people are responsible for the actions of so and so.
    There are many Muslim liberals <-------- B0LLOCKS
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Amen brother
    So you support an ideology (that can be left at any time) that allows rape of captured female slaves, and yet you expect the rest of the world to say 'oh its a few wackos, not the ideology?'
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    (Original post by Borgia)
    Sick of hearing this from religious apologists. White is not an ideology. White supremacist is, but that isn't subscribed to by the majority of whites.

    Did anyone blame black people for Woolwich?
    Does anyone blame atheist arabs for attacks by arab terrorists?
    do people blame 'black people' and 'blacks' for crimes when one single black person does something ?

    Yes.

    So join the club.

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    (Original post by Xenorebrem)
    I think you've missed the point.

    The idea is to display how ridiculous it is to judge over a billion people solely on the actions of a few, ideology or not.

    Three are many muslims liberals who keep their religion to themselves and so to say that these people are responsible for this heinous crime IS as ludicrous as the proposition that all white people are responsible for the actions of so and so.

    There we go everyone the age old excuse of "theres a Billion muslim blaa blaa"

    And look at the state of Muslim countries and the societies of these billion Muslims and what does that tell you?
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    (Original post by PrincessAlexis)
    do people blame 'black people' and 'blacks' for crimes when one single black person does something ?

    Yes.

    So join the club.


    Which is entirely wrong. Unless these black people happen to be part of an ideology that at best is ambiguous of its condemnation of crime (sarcasm), then it is ridiculous to suggest that one black person is responsible for the actions of another.
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    (Original post by Borgia)
    So you support an ideology (that can be left at any time) that allows rape of captured female slaves, and yet you expect the rest of the world to say 'oh its a few wackos, not the ideology?'
    Why should law abiding muslims have to apologise for the actions of extremists? Ideology or no ideology,nobody should be made to apologise for the misyakes of others,period!
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    (Original post by PrincessAlexis)
    do people blame 'black people' and 'blacks' for crimes when one single black person does something ?

    Yes.

    So join the club.

    I love this gif hahah
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    (Original post by ReligionIsPoison)
    There are many Muslim liberals <-------- B0LLOCKS
    I know right don't even know why I said that. I think I was just bored and wanted to create some controversy......












    ........"slowly creeps out"........:ninja:
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    (Original post by Borgia)
    Which is entirely wrong. Unless these black people happen to be part of an ideology that at best is ambiguous of its condemnation of crime (sarcasm), then it is ridiculous to suggest that one black person is responsible for the actions of another.
    But people do it every day even on this very site....
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Why should law abiding muslims have to apologise for the actions of extremists? Ideology or no ideology,nobody should be made to apologise for the misyakes of others,period!
    Erm... well if you are happily supportive of an ideology that supports rape of capture slaves, then I would suggest you are complicit in such actions.

    "Not all Nazis are bad, only the ones that actually act on their ideology."
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    (Original post by PrincessAlexis)
    But people do it every day even on this very site....
    And they are completely wrong to do so.
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    (Original post by Borgia)
    Except they share an ideology, a manifesto (the quran) and often on pressing them they aren't as liberal as they claim.

    No one would ever say 'not all BNP members are racist, just the ones that happen to get caught saying racist things that happen to coincide with the party manifesto'
    Except they don't really share an ideology, they have a related one. Or should all Christians apologise for Josef Kony, or the Westboro Baptist Church? I mean they are all Christians right?

    Just because they are Muslim doesn't mean they agree with the terrorists, and if they don't agree why should they have to apologize? Hell, most victims of Islamists are Muslims of other denominations, should Shia's being persecuted by Islamic State apologize on behalf of the people killing them?
 
 
 
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