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    (Original post by kissit)
    This disturbing behaviour is never going to stop is it?!
    I cant even begin to imagine what was going through that poor mans mind or how he must have felt.
    i saw pictures in the paper this morning, thought i was gunna cry. I always start thinking - what was going thruough his mind, he must have been petrified. This behaviour is truely sick. I dont know how any human could kill another at all, let alone in this sort of way. I was actually very disturbed when i saw the pictures.
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    banned to post link? Anyways it can be found on google if you know what to search for. Im not going to post any links in order to adher with the moderators rules but i dont think anyone should see it anyways.

    Btw, the quality is crap and hangs up breifly on a continual basis. So *IT IS NOT* graphic or anything. The video of the beheading of a russian soldier a few years ago was done on a digital video camera so that was graphic and VERY VERY disturbing, however this video is all blurry and looks like it was recorded on a mobile's camera. Other then the initial part of the video which no doubt most of you have seen pictures of, with the guy wearing orange and the iraqi men behind me. That is how the video starts, but in the video you dont see the supposed monologue of the american but instead proceeds with all the iraqis praising gods name then piling ontop of him to carry out the task. Then at the end the executor holds the head.....end of video...only the last part is disturbing and relatively clear.

    I wish to say that these iraqis do not represnt islam and its beliefs and acted completely against the teachings of islam. Islam has set guidlines as to how to treat prisoners of war which can be summarised to 'treat them better than yourself, and feed them well etc.' The link below gives you information regarding what islam says about treating prisoners; http://www.islamonline.net/english/i...rticle05.shtml

    It still puzzles me why they do these acts in the name of god yet they defy his teachings. Im not going to go into the subject of islam and how they WRONGED themselves in numerous ways by executing that man but basically i feel that those iraqi men had anger in them and used islam as a justification for their actions of revenge. Like i said it puzzles me how they can use islam like that. Even executions that are for a 'just cause' that have to be carried out by decapitating the person is meant to be done with an axe or a sword in order to inflict minimum pain and a swift death, so even if they believed that what they were doing was justified religiously (which i stress, is NOT) then the method of execution wrong since they used a small blade to perform 'the chicken slaughter' which was long and painfull and shocking.
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    all these terrorists are just barbarians. bush could go all hell for leather and blow them all to kingdom come but then there are laws stopping this sort of action taking place which i personally think is getting in the way of doing the right thing.
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    (Original post by superomega1)
    all these terrorists are just barbarians. bush could go all hell for leather and blow them all to kingdom come but then there are laws stopping this sort of action taking place which i personally think is getting in the way of doing the right thing.
    more or less, spot on
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    It just demonstrates that there is no longer a distinction between "good" and "evil" both parties are just as bad as each other. What sickens me the most is the fact that people are capable of doing this to each other over causes that are extremely petty. The world is looking a very bleak place.
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    (Original post by smokey636)
    Did anyone see this on the news, its not nice it made me feel sick. I feel so sorry for the guy, imagine what the guy must have been going through. And the parents who have seen there son like that. its not good.

    they say the video of it is on the internet but i think they've taken it of.
    It totally disgusts me. I can't comprehend how these people think they're doing something good by humiliating, torturing and killing others in this way. For whatever reason. I just don't understand.
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    (Original post by Mandrake)
    It just demonstrates that there is no longer a distinction between "good" and "evil" both parties are just as bad as each other. What sickens me the most is the fact that people are capable of doing this to each other over causes that are extremely petty. The world is looking a very bleak place.
    I used to think there never was any such thing as "pure good" and "pure evil" - that everyone has bits of both in them - but when I see things like this I wonder whether these people even know what "good" means.

    I suppose there is some hope in the fact that the executioners have to hide behind religion rather than admitting they have killed in cold blood - maybe they realise, on some level, that this is abhorrent.
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    (Original post by Mandrake)
    It just demonstrates that there is no longer a distinction between "good" and "evil" both parties are just as bad as each other.
    ARE YOU F**KING KIDDDING!?!

    how can you compare photographing a naked mans willy in nothing more than pornography with beheading a man with a razor blade..for christs sake.
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    ARE YOU F**KING KIDDDING!?!

    how can you compare photographing a naked mans willy in nothing more than pornography with beheading a man with a razor blade..for christs sake.
    Yeah of course, not like TORTURE is a bad thing at all, is it?
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    (Original post by mik1a)
    Yeah of course, not like TORTURE is a bad thing at all, is it?
    I'm sure an American politician made a big point of distinguishing between tortue and abuse.....
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    ARE YOU F**KING KIDDDING!?!

    how can you compare photographing a naked mans willy in nothing more than pornography with beheading a man with a razor blade..for christs sake.
    Vienna, we're only being fed half the story. We don't know what the US and UK troops have been doing with the prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan. But there are numerous deaths of prisoners that were held captive in Afghanistan under the "care" of the US.

    Just because they "only" photographed them naked and urinated on them and which ever story you wish to believe. Does that justify it to you?
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    ARE YOU F**KING KIDDDING!?!

    how can you compare photographing a naked mans willy in nothing more than pornography with beheading a man with a razor blade..for christs sake.
    please dont tell me wiring prisoners genitals and electrocuting them is ok
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    (Original post by blissy)
    I'm sure an American politician made a big point of distinguishing between tortue and abuse.....
    Ha ha, good old Rummy.
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    (Original post by blissy)
    I'm sure an American politician made a big point of distinguishing between tortue and abuse.....
    That was clearly done to distinguish between what the Americans had been doing, and what the Iraquis had been doing. Ie, "those Iraquis are evil, the Americans are just misguided."

    I do believe that, from the evidence we've seen, the Iraquis' reaction is disgusting and goes way too far. However, the truth is always the first casualty of war, and I'm absolutely convinced that much of what we see on the news is propaganda.
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    (Original post by mik1a)
    Yeah of course, not like TORTURE is a bad thing at all, is it?
    real torture is yes. half of what youve seen is a) not torture b) not even mentioned by the Geneva Convention.
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    (Original post by Mandrake)
    Vienna, we're only being fed half the story. We don't know what the US and UK troops have been doing with the prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan. But there are numerous deaths of prisoners that were held captive in Afghanistan under the "care" of the US.

    Just because they "only" photographed them naked and urinated on them and which ever story you wish to believe. Does that justify it to you?
    your fabricating to defend your now unarguable point.
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    (Original post by Trousers)
    That was clearly done to distinguish between what the Americans had been doing, and what the Iraquis had been doing. Ie, "those Iraquis are evil, the Americans are just misguided."

    I do believe that, from the evidence we've seen, the Iraquis' reaction is disgusting and goes way too far. However, the truth is always the first casualty of war, and I'm absolutely convinced that much of what we see on the news is propaganda.
    the double standards of the media is horrific. some papers barely put 'that video' as headlines. CNN is atrociously biased against the administration. youre right to be convinced. id say context is the first casualty.
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    (Original post by TheWolf)
    please dont tell me wiring prisoners genitals and electrocuting them is ok
    electrocuting them? it was staged...

    and no its not ok, but joking around with naked guys is not feeding your legs first into a shredder or making u watch ur wife be raped and then have her throat cut and its not chopping someones head off with a razor blade.
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    your fabricating to defend your now unarguable point.
    Fabricating? :rolleyes:

    You'll believe everything you read from the western press. There are recorded deaths of prisoners in Afghanistan that were under US "care" why do you even bother denying these deaths? They are documented.
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    (Original post by Mandrake)
    Fabricating? :rolleyes:

    You'll believe everything you read from the western press. There are recorded deaths of prisoners in Afghanistan that were under US "care" why do you even bother denying these deaths? They are documented.
    my detest for the western media is well known...

    a) what has the press got to do with it..
    b) death does occur in prison.
    c) where am i denying it
    d) how in anyway does this support ur point?!
 
 
 
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