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    Can someone please just go through the question and explain completing the square and what the hell I'm doing wrong, I've been doing this god forsaken question for over an hour now, I can do everything else in c1 except completing the square. I have no idea and considering just skipping learning completing the square as some people say you only need to divide the first 2 terms by the coefficient while others say you have to divide everything.
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    (Original post by WilliamSlim)
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    Can someone please just go through the question and explain completing the square and what the hell I'm doing wrong, I've been doing this god forsaken question for over an hour now, I can do everything else in c1 except completing the square. I have no idea and considering just skipping learning completing the square as some people say you only need to divide the first 2 terms by the coefficient while others say you have to divide everything. I'm honestly about to punch my brother and break his jaw if he comes into my room again because doing this is making me so frustrated, i'm literally going to just go and drink as much alcohol as i can in 30 mintues if i can't do this and hope in my drunken state i pass out just to stop being so frustrated
    firstly do you have an equation to solve by completing the square

    or

    complete the square in a quadratic expression
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    i should clarify, the question is 2x^2-7=4x and you have to find x
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    (Original post by WilliamSlim)
    i should clarify, the question is 2x^2-7=4x and you have to find x
    2x^2 - 4x - 7 = 0

    Start by dividing through by 2 and you don't have to worry about the leading coefficient
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    (Original post by WilliamSlim)
    i should clarify, the question is 2x^2-7=4x and you have to find x

    then write it in the usual order
    then divide the equation by 2
    then continue as per normal
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    (Original post by WilliamSlim)
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    Can someone please just go through the question and explain completing the square and what the hell I'm doing wrong, I've been doing this god forsaken question for over an hour now, I can do everything else in c1 except completing the square. I have no idea and considering just skipping learning completing the square as some people say you only need to divide the first 2 terms by the coefficient while others say you have to divide everything.
    The issue with dividing everything or just the first 2 terms

    You can always divide everything if you have an equation =0

    However ... If you are just completing the square you cannot divide through ... Instead you take out a factor .... In this case you often leave the third term alone
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    Yeah okay maths doesn't work
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    (Original post by WilliamSlim)
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    Yeah okay maths doesn't work
    That was fine ... What is the problem

    Did you want

    \dfrac{2\pm3\sqrt{2}}{2}
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    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    That was fine ... What is the problem

    Did you want

    \dfrac{2+-3\sqrt2}{2}
    No, i don't understand at all why you are dividng it by 2 at the end, or where on earth you got 2 before the +-sqrt
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    (Original post by WilliamSlim)
    No, i don't understand at all why you are dividng it by 2 at the end, or where on earth you got 2 before the +-sqrt
    Your answer was fine ... What is the issue
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    Question 6, my answer is wrong, it's also different from your answer.

    You got 1+-(3sqrt2/2) I have no idea at all why you multiply the 3 by the sqrt2 and then why you divide it by 2
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    (Original post by WilliamSlim)
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    Question 6, my answer is wrong, it's also different from your answer.
    Your answer is the same as my answer

    And both of our answers are the same as the one in your link
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    You got 1+-(3sqrt2/2) and i got 1+-3/sqrt2 I have no idea at all why you multiply the 3 by the sqrt2 and then why you divide it by 2
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    Oh my f****** i just relaised they rationalsied it, why why i spent 2 hours trying to figure out what went wrong

    DO I ALWAYS HAVE TO RATIONALISE IT? IT DIDNT EVEN ASK TO SIMPLIFY!!!!!
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    (Original post by WilliamSlim)
    Oh my f****** i just relaised they rationalsied it, why why i spent 2 hours trying to figure out what went wrong

    DO I ALWAYS HAVE TO RATIONALISE IT? IT DIDNT EVEN ASK TO SIMPLIFY!!!!!
    Ok

    The answers in the back if the book will always have rationalised denominators

    Rationalised denominators are the accepted form

    You should not lose marks in an exam if you don't .... But I would suggest that you do
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    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    Ok

    The answers in the back if the book will always have rationalised denominators

    Rationalised denominators are the accepted form

    You should not lose marks in an exam if you don't .... But I would suggest that you do
    Okay i am still confused on when i should only factor out the coeffcieint from the first two numbers and when i should factor it out from the whole sum. If i am asked to just complete the square and present it in a form i factor out only the first two terms right? And if it it is asking me to solve for x i'd factor it out from everything right?
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    (Original post by WilliamSlim)
    Okay i am still confused on when i should only factor out the coeffcieint from the first two numbers and when i should factor it out from the whole sum. If i am asked to just complete the square and present it in a form i factor out only the first two terms right? And if it it is asking me to solve for x i'd factor it out from everything right?
    If you wish .... You could ALWAYS factor for the first 2,and leave the other alone

    Let me do a couple of examples and add them for you
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    Okay thanks man, sorry but i have my C1 mck coming up on March and i can doe evrything except complete the square
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    (Original post by WilliamSlim)
    Okay i am still confused on when i should only factor out the coeffcieint from the first two numbers and when i should factor it out from the whole sum. If i am asked to just complete the square and present it in a form i factor out only the first two terms right? And if it it is asking me to solve for x i'd factor it out from everything right?
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    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    Hope these help

    Woah huge help dude thanks, but what happens to the 5 in the red/second question? I swear my teacher said we couldn't just make the number disappear when we are factoring it.
 
 
 
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