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    You you will know human history is full of "deadbeat" ideas and human society has some now and will continue to have some forever. Thought advances through the rational debate of ideas and the ideas that win the debate through wisdom and reason win out.

    One problem with human beings is that we are sensitive and persistent. Often when pushed into a corner, we fight our corner. If someone challenges our beliefs, even if the challenge is reasonable, it just makes a human being stronger in his beliefs.

    Here enters the need for "trolling" by putting forward a point of view that isn't your own, one that is designed to deconstruct, perhaps build around a previously known flawed position, or one that uses a position in a way that is ridiculous or completely ironic a skilled debater can make someone effectively challenge their own position. In some cases this is the only way to make progress in a debate because human are not completely rational; they are sensitive, subjective and stubborn.

    Why therefore is the concept of trolling looked down upon, used to remove comments and in many cases in my experienced used to remove factual comments that are considered insensitive or offensive.


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    Because playing devil's advocate on hot-button topics can end in a flame war and really preying on someone's insecurities and trauma if they are vulnerable. For example, even if I don't think it personally, pretending that I believe all Jews should get thrown down a well* is going to remind a good few people about their dead grand-dad in Auschwitz and piss them off. This then creates a toxic atmosphere on the site and might lead to some real-world repercussions: let's not forget that you and I are both real people (unless you are some creepy malware put up like ReplacementCertificates ) and, if significantly offended, could take real-world action.

    Since humans are not entirely rational, we have feelings that need to be respected in civil debate. Needs some subtlety for trolling to be even remotely PC. True trolling is basically online terrorism.

    *yes I am trolling
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    I don't think people these days even know what trolling is......or what it used to be anyway.

    No its not saying offensive things for the sake of offending

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    Nothing is wrong with it

    Satire and humour is part of british culture

    However, trolling is NOT emotional abuse or harassment . that is a separate thing altogether
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    it's disrespectful, abusive and hurtful...this is why.....
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    (Original post by hamix.forllz)
    it's disrespectful, abusive and hurtful...this is why.....
    It isn't

    that is emotional abuse and harassment , completely different
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    (Original post by democracyforum)
    It isn't

    that is emotional abuse and harassment , completely different
    True, genuine, malicious trolling is small-scale online terrorism, only a couple of steps below hacking
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    (Original post by democracyforum)
    It isn't

    that is emotional abuse and harassment , completely different
    Erm...this is what trolling is.....
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    (Original post by hamix.forllz)
    Erm...this is what trolling is.....
    Trolling has always meant to wind up, or make people annoyed. The media almost always now associates it with sending death threats online to someone.

    The media is a troll, pretty much all the papers wind people up somehow.
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    (Original post by Snagprophet)
    Trolling has always meant to wind up, or make people annoyed. The media almost always now associates it with sending death threats online to someone.

    The media is a troll, pretty much all the papers wind people up somehow.
    I don't care about the media. but then this is what trolling is, since winding them up can offend or hurt others....but whatever, i'm not here to discuss semantics...
 
 
 
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