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The global economy is capitalist.
Capitalists want the most profit they can get.
Total global wages are set at a certain amount which rarely increases due to the capitalists profit maximization objective.
The determinant of your level of wages depends on your proximity to capital centres.
Poor immigrants move closer to capital centres and work for the wage that the capitalists actually want to pay (the minimum wage and in some cases less)
Both these practices go against humanity therefore lefties/socialists should be against both.
The only way to properly help poor/working class people around the world is to develop socialist unions which fully integrate economies and pursue a protectionist economic policy with selective international trading.
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Capitalists want the most profit they can get.
Total global wages are set at a certain amount which rarely increases due to the capitalists profit maximization objective.
The determinant of your level of wages depends on your proximity to capital centres.
Poor immigrants move closer to capital centres and work for the wage that the capitalists actually want to pay (the minimum wage and in some cases less)
The migration of working class people around the world is equivalent to the outsourcing of labour to poor countries.
Both these practices go against humanity therefore lefties/socialists should be against both.
The only way to properly help poor/working class people around the world is to develop socialist unions which fully integrate economies and pursue a protectionist economic policy with selective international trading.
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(Original post by saayagain)
The global economy is capitalist.
The global economy is capitalist.
(Original post by saayagain)
Capitalists want the most profit they can get.
Capitalists want the most profit they can get.
(Original post by saayagain)
Total global wages are set at a certain amount which rarely increases due to the capitalists profit maximization objective.
Total global wages are set at a certain amount which rarely increases due to the capitalists profit maximization objective.
(Original post by saayagain)
The determinant of your level of wages depends on your proximity to capital centres.
Poor immigrants move closer to capital centres and work for the wage that the capitalists actually want to pay (the minimum wage and in some cases less)
Both these practices go against humanity therefore lefties/socialists should be against both.
The only way to properly help poor/working class people around the world is to develop socialist unions which fully integrate economies and pursue a protectionist economic policy with selective international trading.
Regards
The determinant of your level of wages depends on your proximity to capital centres.
Poor immigrants move closer to capital centres and work for the wage that the capitalists actually want to pay (the minimum wage and in some cases less)
The migration of working class people around the world is equivalent to the outsourcing of labour to poor countries.
Both these practices go against humanity therefore lefties/socialists should be against both.
The only way to properly help poor/working class people around the world is to develop socialist unions which fully integrate economies and pursue a protectionist economic policy with selective international trading.
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(Original post by saayagain)
The global economy is capitalist.
Capitalists want the most profit they can get.
Total global wages are set at a certain amount which rarely increases due to the capitalists profit maximization objective.
The determinant of your level of wages depends on your proximity to capital centres.
Poor immigrants move closer to capital centres and work for the wage that the capitalists actually want to pay (the minimum wage and in some cases less)
Both these practices go against humanity therefore lefties/socialists should be against both.
The only way to properly help poor/working class people around the world is to develop socialist unions which fully integrate economies and pursue a protectionist economic policy with selective international trading.
Regards
The global economy is capitalist.
Capitalists want the most profit they can get.
Total global wages are set at a certain amount which rarely increases due to the capitalists profit maximization objective.
The determinant of your level of wages depends on your proximity to capital centres.
Poor immigrants move closer to capital centres and work for the wage that the capitalists actually want to pay (the minimum wage and in some cases less)
The migration of working class people around the world is equivalent to the outsourcing of labour to poor countries.
Both these practices go against humanity therefore lefties/socialists should be against both.
The only way to properly help poor/working class people around the world is to develop socialist unions which fully integrate economies and pursue a protectionist economic policy with selective international trading.
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With enormous state intervention in the economy in the vast majority of Western countries.
With enormous state intervention in the economy in the vast majority of Western countries.
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Everyone wants their economic actions to benefit them, capitalist or non-capitalist.
Everyone wants their economic actions to benefit them, capitalist or non-capitalist.
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Total baloney. Capitalism has resulted in massive increases in real wages and is the only force that has got millions out of poverty.
Total baloney. Capitalism has resulted in massive increases in real wages and is the only force that has got millions out of poverty.
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The idea that socialism and protectionism is what will help the poor is absurd. Free movement of labour in Europe in the nineteenth century was the greatest liberation for the working class the world has ever seen. You didn't even need a passport or permit to emigrate or work anywhere in Europe bar Russia.
The idea that socialism and protectionism is what will help the poor is absurd. Free movement of labour in Europe in the nineteenth century was the greatest liberation for the working class the world has ever seen. You didn't even need a passport or permit to emigrate or work anywhere in Europe bar Russia.
Don't pretend to be liberal when you're a capitalist. That's like being an egalitarian and a KKK member...
Socialism and protectionism will work...Drives internal development, provides people with a good standard of living. Then you expand to other nations which want to join the revolution.
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The free market will fix it.
The free market will fix it.
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