i want women to have equal rights and be a feminist, but there are some women that I follow on twitter, and theyre quite mean about men, how do I avoid getting upset and sad about it whilst continuing to be a feminist or feminist ally?
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- 27-01-2015 00:25
My problem with feminism is the word feminism, surely it should be a gender neutral word if the goal is equality. But anyway, you should continue calling yourself a feminist because they don't represent your idea of feminism.
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- 27-01-2015 00:27
(Original post by shuheb789)
My problem with feminism is the word feminism, surely it should be a gender neutral word if the goal is equality. But anyway, you should continue calling yourself a feminist because they don't represent your idea of feminism. -
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- 27-01-2015 00:30
Don't be a feminist. Believe in gender equality instead.
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- 27-01-2015 00:30
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I'm still a feminist, so please don't insult feminism whilst i'm aound. -
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- 27-01-2015 00:32
(Original post by KingStannis)
Don't be a feminist. Believe in gender equality instead.(Original post by shuheb789)
I don't see how I've insulted it, I have no problem with what it stands for, just the word 'feminism' itself. -
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- 27-01-2015 00:32
This is what clinches me not calling myself a feminist beyond anything else.
Feminism is a concept, not a tangible thing. You can't go out and get me a feminism. Concepts are fluid things, and can't be bound accurately by any single definition - instead they just tangle of associations, and personal experiences redefine the concept for the individual. In my personal experience women proclaiming themselves to be feminists seem to be more focused on man-hating than gender equality. Thus as much as I support the notion of gender equality, I don't want to associate myself with the concept of feminism.Last edited by jumblehunter; 27-01-2015 at 00:34. Reason: Typo -
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- 27-01-2015 00:32
The word 'feminist' has come to have connotations other than it originally held, so if you want to avoid those, I'd stick with egalitarian instead.
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- 27-01-2015 00:33
(Original post by damoni)
i'm sorry guys, but I think the people I follow on twitter are right, this is just your male privilege talking. don't worry, I used to think that way too, now I've matured, I see the way things are. -
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There's no one type of feminism, it's a diverse and occasionally conflicted movement. Sometimes what's empowering for one feminist is degrading for another. As long as your belief is gender equality you should keep the name feminist. And if you happen to disagree with another feminist, either explain why and debate, or simply ignore them. Keep that gender equality train a'rolling.
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- 27-01-2015 00:34
There's extremes with everything. Some people like banana's, some people LOVE banana's and some people go banana's.
Point is, you can like bananas without going banana's. Not wanting to go banana's doesn't mean you can't have a banana. -
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- 27-01-2015 00:35
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i'm sorry guys, but I think the people I follow on twitter are right, this is just your male privilege talking. don't worry, I used to think that way too, now I've matured, I see the way things are. -
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- 27-01-2015 00:36
Don't be a feminist, be an humanitarian or equalist.
I'm an anti-feminist but still want equal right between the sexes. If you disagree with man hating or man 'bashing' within feminism it basically means you oppose radical, academic and the media represented feminism (aka all feminist's with voices in public). I would drop the term. -
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- 27-01-2015 00:37
(Original post by damoni)
i'm sorry guys, but I think the people I follow on twitter are right, this is just your male privilege talking. don't worry, I used to think that way too, now I've matured, I see the way things are. -
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- 27-01-2015 00:37
(Original post by damoni)
i'm sorry guys, but I think the people I follow on twitter are right, this is just your male privilege talking. don't worry, I used to think that way too, now I've matured, I see the way things are. -
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- 27-01-2015 00:39
(Original post by xMr_BrightSide)
Don't turn this into a troll thread please.(Original post by jf1994)
My troll sense is tingling!
(Original post by Izzyeviel)
There's extremes with everything. Some people like banana's, some people LOVE banana's and some people go banana's.
Point is, you can like bananas without going banana's. Not wanting to go banana's doesn't mean you can't have a banana.(Original post by Lwin)
There's no one type of feminism, it's a diverse and occasionally conflicted movement. Sometimes what's empowering for one feminist is degrading for another. As long as your belief is gender equality you should keep the name feminist. And if you happen to disagree with another feminist, either explain why and debate, or simply ignore them. Keep that gender equality train a'rolling.
(Original post by jumblehunter)
This is what clinches me not calling myself a feminist beyond anything else.
Feminism is a concept, not a tangible thing. You can't go out and get me a feminism. Concepts are fluid things, and can't be bound accurately by any single definition - instead they just tangle of associations, and personal experiences redefine the concept for the individual. In my personal experience women proclaiming themselves to be feminists seem to be more focused on man-hating than gender equality. Thus as much as I support the notion of gender equality, I don't want to associate myself with the concept of feminism.
(Original post by xMr_BrightSide)
The word 'feminist' has come to have connotations other than it originally held, so if you want to avoid those, I'd stick with egalitarian instead. -
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- 27-01-2015 00:46
and, despite the fact i'll be labelled a troll, I think this shows how hard it can be for feminists to get their point across, to have their views heard on a online forum, dominated mainly by males.
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- 27-01-2015 00:48
(Original post by xMr_BrightSide)
The word 'feminist' has come to have connotations other than it originally held, so if you want to avoid those, I'd stick with egalitarian instead.
For what it's worth I'm an anarchist, which pretty much automatically makes me a feminist also (illegitimate hierarchy based on gender) so the whole thing is pretty simple for me. -
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- 27-01-2015 00:49
(Original post by damoni)
and, despite the fact i'll be labelled a troll, I think this shows how hard it can be for feminists to get their point across, to have their views heard on a online forum, dominated mainly by males.
If you only wanted women to reply you should've said. Would've saved me typing up that awful banana analogy. -
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- 27-01-2015 00:50
i'll admit though, I don't want to feel like i'm betraying my gender by being a feminist and I don't want to feel i'm betraying feminists by being a eglatarian.
so either way , I cant win, can I?
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