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    It seems at the moment that none of the parties have a great interest in science, despite the fact that the UK is a world leader in the field. This isn't helped by the fact that high university fees and strict immigration laws for young people puts off the worlds best minds from coming to British universities and staying here in employment afterwards. I feel that science should be a large part of of UK politics as it is a large part of the culture and economy.

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    (Original post by jamespaine)
    It seems at the moment that none of the parties have a great interest in science, despite the fact that the UK is a world leader in the field. This isn't helped by the fact that high university fees and strict immigration laws for young people puts off the worlds best minds from coming to British universities and staying here in employment afterwards. I feel that science should be a large part of of UK politics as it is a large part of the culture and economy.

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    Ah, I had high hopes for the title of the thread. I expected you to point out the overpoliticisation of science. Science is just a tool of observation, without bias. But guess who does have bias- the scientists.

    http://sultanknish.blogspot.ca/2014/...id-people.html

    Give this a read.
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    (Original post by HigherMinion)
    Ah, I had high hopes for the title of the thread. I expected you to point out the overpoliticisation of science. Science is just a tool of observation, without bias. But guess who does have bias- the scientists.

    http://sultanknish.blogspot.ca/2014/...id-people.html

    Give this a read.
    Without meaning to disregard your input, the author of that article seems to know very little about the progress of science and knowledge in the past couple of centuries, and as for referring to the 'socialist' and 'leftist' tendencies of science I say that can only be a good thing (however I am not a socialist myself). Without using words with such negative connotations, it shows that knowledge can be accessed and developed by anyone, as it is based on minds and not money (mostly!). I doubt he would refuse cancer treatment (hopefully he'll never need it) on the grounds it was 'too politicised' or that it has an agenda.
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    (Original post by jamespaine)
    Without meaning to disregard your input, the author of that article seems to know very little about the progress of science and knowledge in the past couple of centuries, and as for referring to the 'socialist' and 'leftist' tendencies of science I say that can only be a good thing (however I am not a socialist myself). Without using words with such negative connotations, it shows that knowledge can be accessed and developed by anyone, as it is based on minds and not money (mostly!). I doubt he would refuse cancer treatment (hopefully he'll never need it) on the grounds it was 'too politicised' or that it has an agenda.
    Well let's consider the politically charged areas of science:
    -playing God with medicine
    -genetic cloning
    -environmentalism
    -health
    -genetics in general
    Politics attempts to make activism out of the science, if it has any relevance to the ideology. That ideology is usually that of "equality": the reason most genetics research is stifled.

    Science had to be completely remodeled and begin using "soft-facts" to make the kinds of false predictions that have been made viz the global warming scandal. You no longer need proof, only consensus that something is happening.

    Science has nothing to do with politics, although I believe UKIP has stated it will subsidise STEM fields further than other degrees. First thing that needs to be targeted is the primary and secondary school curriculum for science. Taking the GCSE science course at the moment, here's the run down:

    Chemistry:
    global warming
    climate change
    teacher will emphasise that you don't need to know 'how' it works, just 'that' it works.
    oil is dirty and bad
    carbondioxide is bad and evil and benefits no one
    everytime you use a plastic bag, an albatross dies on an island

    Biology:
    drugs are fun!
    cannabis isn't that bad
    the NHS can't tell people how to live, so it should prescribe drugs instead
    smoking real bad, will give everyone around you cancer


    I'd quit if I hadn't paid madbux to do the course. Physics can't be too bad, though... You should look in to Post-Normal Science, James.
 
 
 
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