Inappropriate Tripadvisor reviews for Auschwitz

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Condog10
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I read these and was pretty shocked! :eek4:

http://metro.co.uk/2015/01/26/auschw...itors-5036350/

'When you visit a place like that you want to be shocked but I saw nothing new'

IMO, Auschwitz isn't a tourist destination, it's a memorial!

What do you guys think? Are these reviews justified?
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(Original post by Condog10)
IMO, Auschwitz isn't a tourist destination, it's a memorial!
You hit the nail on the head here.

It shouldn't be, yet it is consistently treated as one.
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You hit the nail on the head here.

It shouldn't be, yet it is consistently treated as one.
I remember when I went there was a American girl and her mum, and she was taking photos of everything on her ipad and uploading it to facebook!
Literally, whilst we were walking around with a polish tour guide! I was livid!

I think it's so important not to sensationalise it, it's emotive enough that it all actually happened without some of the gimmicks tourist sites rely on... :unimpressed:
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it is better that there is a slightly tacky experience than that the Shoah sites be forgotten.
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it is better that there is a slightly tacky experience than that the Shoah sites be forgotten.
Do you actually think they would be forgotten? I'm not sure that is possible, especially not in the near future... :hmmmm2:
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Do you actually think they would be forgotten? I'm not sure that is possible, especially not in the near future... :hmmmm2:
there are many many people who fervently wish that the Shoah would fade away. it is so important that people can see and touch the remains of the murder camps.
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Man, we did a module on my course and one of the big debates was how to remember the Holocaust. Whether it was appropriate to visit Auschwitz, whether it was appropriate to repair the buildings and fences as they decayed, whether it was appropriate for there to be a cafe on a site where over a million were murdered. A few in my seminar group who had been there said that people were laughing and chatting as they went round the site. Really difficult questions to answer.
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It is awful when people don't treat these places with respect. I went round the Anne Frank house in Amsterdam behind some Spanish people who (perhaps because of language barrier if I'm giving benefit of the doubt) cackled and laughed their way through the whole thing. It made me feel angry that they weren't sobered by the atrocities that had been conducted against the people who'd lived there.

I do think that it teaches you a lot to visit these places however. It makes something come alive and people need to keep remembering these lessons so it never gets repeated. Even if some people have no respect, I think the benefit to society of maintaining these places and allowing visitors outweighs all that.
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I do think that it teaches you a lot to visit these places however. It makes something come alive and people need to keep remembering these lessons so it never gets repeated. Even if some people have no respect, I think the benefit to society of maintaining these places and allowing visitors outweighs all that.
I agree! Like i said above, they should be seen as memorials not tourist sites. Like you would visit a grave. You should go to pay your respects to the victims of the atrocity, but not treat it as entertainment!
It should be kept as a reminder of humanity at its worst, to keep people from repeating history.
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I agree! Like i said above, they should be seen as memorials not tourist sites. Like you would visit a grave. You should go to pay your respects to the victims of the atrocity, but not treat it as entertainment!
It should be kept as a reminder of humanity at its worst, to keep people from repeating history.
I agree (particularly given there are holocaust survivors alive today). Oradour Sur Glane is like this, too - it's really eerie.

However, I think the problem is that we are just reaching the turning point where it becomes 'history' rather than 'recent tragedy'. People my age have never been involved in a war in Europe. They can't even remember the Cold War. We don't feel like we are under threat - we (possibly wrongly) feel totally secure under a liberal government, in a world where mentioning someone's skin colour is politically incorrect.

When people go to Pompeii, they (mostly) don't treat it as a site where thousands of people burned alive - similarly with a Roman amphitheatre (where people met horrific deaths for the pleasure of a crowd). They know it happened, and they try to connect with it, but ultimately it's a day out. The people who lived there are not them. Auschwitz is far closer to home, but I think there's a subtle shift towards the same kind of apathy. People go there because they want to be shocked, or because they want to 'connect with the past', but they don't, or possibly can't, really connect on a personal level. This will only get worse as time goes on.

That's why it's so important, of course.
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That is inappropriate imo. Definitely should be treated with respect.
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I went there in November and there was a stag party going on...never been more shocked and disgusted in my life (especially after googling it and realising that the Auschwitz tour was directly followed by a bar crawl)
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The majority treat it with respect and there are of course going to a minority that don't...
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Meh my grandma and her mother were holocaust survivors, my grandma found the whole experience of visiting death camps enlightening but completely boring at the same time, feeling it could of been 'updated' a little.

(When I mean holocaust survivors, not in the fact they were in death camps, rather the only two of their family to escape being sent to the death camps and survived the war).
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I went there in November and there was a stag party going on...never been more shocked and disgusted in my life (especially after googling it and realising that the Auschwitz tour was directly followed by a bar crawl)
What! That is hilarious, who on earth would want to have their stag do at a Auschwitz! I can't believe that...
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i just googled it, Auschwitz stag weekends do exist... Mind. Blown. :zomg:
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Freedom of speech.
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that one off big brother had a snow fight there
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after reading the reviews I don't see the problem. They are not disrespecting the actual site merely expressing the way it is too crowded or commercialized. As well as being a memorial it is also a historic tour so people can critiscize the way it is run as a historic thing. They are not saying there should be a pub and a restaurant.
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