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18 to 21 year olds to be made homeless by the Tories. watch

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10008493.html

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...arah-wollaston

    Are you a Orphan? Are you sofa surfing because your parents exiled you from your home? Are you disabled and need your own space?

    Well tough because David Cameron needs your housing benefit money to fund more apprenticeships.

    Maybe you are half way to just completing your last year of a level 3 qualification like your AS levels in Maths etc or a BTEC Diploma in Computing. Your trying your best because you know how bad the economy is. You try not to think about how bad your circumstances are but what you can do to change your situation.

    You was going to vote Conservative but now you feel betrayed and this clouds your mind.

    Let me tell you this. David Cameron isn't interested in young vulnerable people. He drives past them all the time on the way to number 10 downing street. And if they are lucky they might get a huge splash of freezing water hurling towards their cold linen sleeping bags with them in it.

    But there are people who care about you. There are those of us fighting against austerity and we understand you are capable of achieving your goals. You just need some help. You need someone to give you a hand up so you can become productive.

    The majority of people have never known a left-wing Government but you can see the effects of wealth distribution, equality and socialism within places like your school or community college, the NHS hospitals, the fire-fighters and the policemen. The whole left-wing has been under attack these past 5 years and even right-wingers have seen the errors of their ways.

    I am one of those people. And maybe you might be too but redemption isn't something that is closed. All it takes is a hand of unity.

    If any of you are going to be effected by these Tory cuts I want to hear from you.

    Join the struggle against austerity.
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    So how does one join this "struggle", illegal?

    You offer a lot of criticism of the Tories but no solution.
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    So how does one join this "struggle", illegal?

    You offer a lot of criticism of the Tories but no solution.
    That is because people need to turn the on switch to the part of the brain that allows you to think for yourself. What is the point of me inserting an answer for you just for you to become a sheep of my individual will?

    The solution is obvious.
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    That is because people need to turn the on switch to the part of the brain that allows you to think for yourself. What is the point of me inserting an answer for you just for you to become a sheep of my individual will?

    The solution is obvious.
    Let me address your concern by telling you that there is no possibility of me becoming a sheep of your individual will. You are not convincing enough for that.

    Are you going to continue copping out or are you going to reveal this "obvious" solution?

    How about giving a clue. Does it involve voting for a particular party?
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    why do people love tory? they have been contemptibly cruel and people still vote for them, why? anyone could become sick/disabled, and now people are too young and vulnerable for shelter. People who love them imo enjoy punishment of the weak.
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    (Original post by BitWindy)
    Let me address your concern by telling you that there is no possibility of me becoming a sheep of your individual will. You are not convincing enough for that.

    Are you going to continue copping out or are you going to reveal this "obvious" solution?

    How about giving a clue. Does it involve voting for a particular party?
    It involves people taking risks and giving a spare room to a young person and sponsoring them for a year or two by giving them the care and support they need.

    It involves a unconditional love for a fellow human being so they can reach their potential.

    It involves collective collaboration of a whole community to set up provision for homeless hostels across the country.

    It involves people looking past the symptoms of poverty & abuse and seeing the person trapped inside while their afflictions cover the real story within.

    The answer is to be a compassionate human being instead of a tool of this crony capitalist fascist system that pitches us against each other for the benefit of siphoning money from the poorest to the richest of individual men & women.
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)

    It involves a unconditional love for a fellow human being so they can reach their potential.

    It involves collective collaboration of a whole community to set up provision for homeless hostels across the country.

    It involves people looking past the symptoms of poverty & abuse and seeing the person trapped inside while their afflictions cover the real story within.


    So what do any of these things have to do with the Tories? You can do any of these things right now. In fact, budget cuts should put more money in your pocket with which to do them.


    By focusing so intently upon the Tories, it implies that the solution lies in voting for some other party. What should the government be doing that the Tories aren’t?
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)

    Well tough because David Cameron needs your housing benefit money to fund more apprenticeships.
    Although I despise Cameron, I really cannot see the problem with this.
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    It involves people taking risks and giving a spare room to a young person and sponsoring them for a year or two by giving them the care and support they need.

    It involves a unconditional love for a fellow human being so they can reach their potential.

    It involves collective collaboration of a whole community to set up provision for homeless hostels across the country.

    It involves people looking past the symptoms of poverty & abuse and seeing the person trapped inside while their afflictions cover the real story within.

    The answer is to be a compassionate human being instead of a tool of this crony capitalist fascist system that pitches us against each other for the benefit of siphoning money from the poorest to the richest of individual men & women.
    Let me ask you. Would you take in that first lad in the video, a drug addict with a violent (and recent) past? Would you put him in your house with your family and act as if he's part of it? Because as sympathetic as i am theres no way Im putting my home at risk in such a way

    The rest though I agree with, David Cameron is an uncaring snob who just epitimises the UK's loathing and contempt for the poor and the destitute.

    Cutting these peoples lifelines and benefits is NOT the answer, help them, support them, put a roof over thier heads, food in thier bellies and a little money in thier pockets. Arrange for education and work and help them achieve this. Not every poor person is a no hope waste. The vast majority just need some support. Atm a lot of that falls to charities and social groups who simply cant cope. The Tories make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

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    Although I despise Cameron, I really cannot see the problem with this.
    because your taking money from peter to pay paul.

    Benefits help the least fortunate, those going into apprenticships are likely to be in the same boat, poor with few chances. Give them both the funding they need.
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    It obviously won't apply to existing claimants and those with a genuine reason (e.g homelessness, previously in care, abusive parents) will still be protected by the state. Most people at that age who work full time cannot afford to move out, so why should those who aren't employed be given special treatment? It should be a safety net, for example for someone who has been made redundant, not an automatic right for people who have no intention of working.

    Unfortunately most young people don't bother to go out and vote so they're an easy target for cuts. Labour made a similar pledge last summer to cut 18-21 benefits. This is already the situation in several European countries, under 21s get very little if any support.

    Besides, the vast majority of housing benefit claimants are employed, and therefore won't be affected.
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    The state is less interested in giving benefits to young people because we don't vote. Plus the older generation has the excuse of children as well.

    The answer is to forget about the government and receiving benefits. Try to carve your own future by working hard and satisfying needs in the market. We are young so therefore have a lot of earning potential ahead of us. We don't have children to pay for (by and large) and we also have the ability to move around the country to find new opportunites. Plus you can move to work in any part of the EU without having to worry about visas.

    Let the older generation beg the government for handouts and monetary policy that keeps interest rates artificially low for the sake of their mortgages. We don't need that rubbish.
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    (Original post by silverbolt)

    because your taking money from peter to pay paul.

    Benefits help the least fortunate, those going into apprenticships are likely to be in the same boat, poor with few chances. Give them both the funding they need.
    Not really as Paul is paying taxes to fund Peter.
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    (Original post by Farage is a hero)
    Not really as Paul is paying taxes to fund Peter.
    REally? So those who are placed on apprenticeships are already working then?
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    (Original post by silverbolt)
    REally? So those who are placed on apprenticeships are already working then?
    No.
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    (Original post by BitWindy)


    So what do any of these things have to do with the Tories? You can do any of these things right now. In fact, budget cuts should put more money in your pocket with which to do them.


    By focusing so intently upon the Tories, it implies that the solution lies in voting for some other party. What should the government be doing that the Tories aren’t?
    Completely this. The Conservative-hatred is red-hot with this chap. If parents aren't looking after their kid, then their legacy will simply die out. That's a harsh reality, but if you don't put a foot down somewhere, the kind of negligent behaviour from parents will become more widespread. The welfare state is what has created this lack of social stability in the first place.
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    An upsetting policy as I believe long-term it is another step on the road to completely dismantling the welfare system.

    Nevertheless I do agree in principle that this kind of assistance should only be given to those genuinely in need. Its not the job of the taxpayer to fund young people who want to move to another city and expect the state to cover the bill. Although you can perhaps forgive young people who want to move away from rural areas without many jobs or economic sinkholes (e.g. Hull) - maybe there should be some kind of infrastructure in place to take people away (e.g. relocation loan) from these kinds of areas subject to individual circumstances.

    Additionally young people as a voter bloc deserve half of the **** that comes their way. I say this as one of them because turnout amongst the younger generations is astoundingly low, and I have met so many people who think if they ignore key issues such as politics and economics and think it won't touch them. With the economic system being Darwinian as it is, why should it provide for those who won't stand up for their rights? The elderly turn out to vote in large numbers and are a key bloc in many elections. For the most part politicians dare not touch their benefits that they have paid for all their lives. If young people were to be mobilised to this extent we may not see policies such as these passed, but it simply won't happen due to the lazy, sneering apathy of a generation.
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10008493.html

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...arah-wollaston

    Are you a Orphan? Are you sofa surfing because your parents exiled you from your home? Are you disabled and need your own space?

    Well tough because David Cameron needs your housing benefit money to fund more apprenticeships.

    Maybe you are half way to just completing your last year of a level 3 qualification like your AS levels in Maths etc or a BTEC Diploma in Computing. Your trying your best because you know how bad the economy is. You try not to think about how bad your circumstances are but what you can do to change your situation.

    You was going to vote Conservative but now you feel betrayed and this clouds your mind.

    Let me tell you this. David Cameron isn't interested in young vulnerable people. He drives past them all the time on the way to number 10 downing street. And if they are lucky they might get a huge splash of freezing water hurling towards their cold linen sleeping bags with them in it.

    But there are people who care about you. There are those of us fighting against austerity and we understand you are capable of achieving your goals. You just need some help. You need someone to give you a hand up so you can become productive.

    The majority of people have never known a left-wing Government but you can see the effects of wealth distribution, equality and socialism within places like your school or community college, the NHS hospitals, the fire-fighters and the policemen. The whole left-wing has been under attack these past 5 years and even right-wingers have seen the errors of their ways.

    I am one of those people. And maybe you might be too but redemption isn't something that is closed. All it takes is a hand of unity.

    If any of you are going to be effected by these Tory cuts I want to hear from you.

    Join the struggle against austerity.
    What I find distasteful about this is targeting young people who are still finding their feet. It's a very different thug to targeting 40 year olds who chose a life on benefits.


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    I'm not a massive fan of these ageist policies so i can't fully support it but at the same time it is providing 3 million apprenticeships for those people affected to go after so it's not a bad policy.

    I'm somewhere between undecided and supportive on this.
 
 
 
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