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All it caused was wars and hatred between people's who lived in harmony before.

A few examples are India/Pakistan conflict, Somali civil war etc.

why can't you guys leave our countries alone man? so annoying.
you gotta ruin everything don't you.

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All it caused was wars and hatred between people's who lived in harmony before.

A few examples are India/Pakistan conflict, Somali civil war etc.

why can't you guys leave our countries alone man? so annoying.
you gotta ruin everything don't you.

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I agree.

I just can't understand those who lament its demise or long for the days of Empire.. urgh...the British Empire did horrible things.
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I agree.

I just can't understand those who lament its demise or long for the days of Empire.. urgh...the British Empire did horrible things.
exactly man.

I swear, how those countries were before the British had to stick the fingers of hatred and poison into our countries.

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I'll go dig up Queen Victoria and give her a stern word if you'd like me to
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The problem is that Britain has also dominated the historiography as well, which means getting a view from the pre-colonial era, within those colonies, is very hard.
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Totally agree. Now my homeland is divided and a shadow of its former self


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(Original post by missfats)
All it caused was wars and hatred between people's who lived in harmony before.

A few examples are India/Pakistan conflict, Somali civil war etc.

why can't you guys leave our countries alone man? so annoying.
you gotta ruin everything don't you.

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[email protected] people lived in peace before.

I suggest you read a history of India/Pakistan.

Some of the World's biggest battles were fought on the plains of India before Britain came along.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Battle_of_Panipat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal%...ars#Background

One of the reasons why the Empire was so successful with relatively few men was because they were able to exploit local tensions.

Why do people like you continue to lie?
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Imperialism was definately a bad thing.
that being said I do long for a single world government.
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The problem is that Britain has also dominated the historiography as well, which means getting a view from the pre-colonial era, within those colonies, is very hard.
What do you expect to find that is going to change anything?
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What do you expect to find that is going to change anything?
It's just that with the British domination of historiography during the times of empire, empire-building had an increased justification. At the very least, a "native" challenge would redress that.
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I think we should blame the mutual enemy here: greed.
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(Original post by missfats)
All it caused was wars and hatred between people's who lived in harmony before.

A few examples are India/Pakistan conflict, Somali civil war etc.

why can't you guys leave our countries alone man? so annoying.
you gotta ruin everything don't you.

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You forgot Britain and its African empire c1870-1981.
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(Original post by missfats)
you gotta ruin everything don't you.
Yes


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[email protected] people lived in peace before.

I suggest you read a history of India/Pakistan.

Some of the World's biggest battles were fought on the plains of India before Britain came along.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Battle_of_Panipat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal%...ars#Background

One of the reasons why the Empire was so successful with relatively few men was because they were able to exploit local tensions.

Why do people like you continue to lie?
Please.
In my country, all you have done is divided my nation who lived happily before you British people had to interfere and create a civil war amongst my people.

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Please.
In my country, all you have done is divided my nation who lived happily before you British people had to interfere and create a civil war amongst my people.

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I am not British.

I just don't lie about things like you do.
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(Original post by missfats)
All it caused was wars and hatred between people's who lived in harmony before.

A few examples are India/Pakistan conflict, Somali civil war etc.

why can't you guys leave our countries alone man? so annoying.
you gotta ruin everything don't you.

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I completely agree that the British Empire is nothing to be proud of, and was responsible for many barbaric acts and atrocities over the centuries that it existed, but I find this kind of attitude baffling. "We", as in modern Britons, didn't do anything. Getting angry at me for something that my ancestors did makes no sense.
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(Original post by missfats)
All it caused was wars and hatred between people's who lived in harmony before.

A few examples are India/Pakistan conflict, Somali civil war etc.

why can't you guys leave our countries alone man? so annoying.
you gotta ruin everything don't you.

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Uh, what empire..?
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To claim that British imperialiam influenced the shape of many conflicts that exist today, that it precipitated particular conflicts--this is obvious. To claim that British imperialism is responsible for the existence of any conflict in the places it touched--that is beyond ridiculous.
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It's just that with the British domination of historiography during the times of empire, empire-building had an increased justification. At the very least, a "native" challenge would redress that.
Not sure how familiar you are with the field--this 'native' history-writing has been going on for decades now. Anyone who studies Empire in general or India in particular will read many Indian historians. Generally-speaking, their approach tends to be pretty nationalist, frequently at the expense of accuracy.
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(Original post by AdvanceAndVanquish)
Not sure how familiar you are with the field--this 'native' history-writing has been going on for decades now. Anyone who studies Empire in general or India in particular will read many Indian historians. Generally-speaking, their approach tends to be pretty nationalist, frequently at the expense of accuracy.
Right. A few decades of new native scholarship doesn't make up for the sheer unbalance in historiography, dominated by the British Empire. And I would argue that it has to be nationalistic to redress the Imperial historiography. The truth lies in between the two.
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