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'' We never talk anymore'', ''we don't go out'', ''he doesn't say I love you as often as before'', ''he doesn't listen'', ''he doesn't ask about my day'', '' he doesn't notice my new hair do'', '' doesn't compliment me'', ''he's playing with his phone when he comes home'' and 3000 other complaints. Most men are more than happy with sex, food and the wife not talking too much. This is why a lot of men are often shocked when the wife announces she wants a divorce, from their side the relationship seems just fine. So why do women have about 3000 relationship needs while men have about 3? Why do they need this ''connection'' at almost nanometric levels?
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(Original post by SerenityNow)
'' We never talk anymore'', ''we don't go out'', ''he doesn't say I love you as often as before'', ''he doesn't listen'', ''he doesn't ask about my day'', '' he doesn't notice my new hair do'', '' doesn't compliment me'', ''he's playing with his phone when he comes home'' and 3000 other complaints. Most men are more than happy with sex, food and the wife not talking too much. This is why a lot of men are often shocked when the wife announces she wants a divorce, from their side the relationship seems just fine. So why do women have about 3000 relationship needs while men have about 3? Why do they need this ''connection'' at almost nanometric levels?
A good gf/wife is one you can just enjoy the silence with and not feel as if you need to fill every silence with rubbish.
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Man, this is just too generalising.... I don't think it's really as you describe
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If you can't relate to the OP then you've been very lucky with your women.
No, I think it's pretty stupid. Not just about the women, but guys aren't all like that :facepalm:
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And the wife not talking too much? HA! Why would you be married to someone you don't wanna speak to? It's not only a marriage but a friendship, seeing as you're stuck with them for a long time if you don't get divorced.

We want attention to some extent, but not every woman is the same so you can't put us all into one category. You'll find that some women are content with the simple things in life, like sex, food, and a bit of banter
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To be honest that depends on the woman. I actively avoid women like that. :ahee:
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(Original post by SerenityNow)
Most men are more than happy with sex, food and the wife not talking too much.
You could have the latter two without being in a relationship, if you only want sex, why bother persuing a long term relationship? You can't expect to be with someone for the long haul and expect them to be OK with you treating them like a piece of meat. One assumes the type of men you're referring to doesn't sit with his friends in silence or wish they wouldn't talk to much or that they don't have any social life outside of their partner because socialising with other people doesn't involve sex.

healthy relationships require communication, if you struggle to even talk to the person you've commited to spending your life with, perhaps you need to ask yourself whether you're mature enough to have a relationship like that. If this is your mindset, I think probably not. If all you want from a woman is sex, go find that, don't expect a commitment from their side and not be willing to give anything back.
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And the wife not talking too much? HA! Why would you be married to someone you don't wanna speak to?
By talking too much I meant nagging or endlessly blabering about her sister's neighbour's cleaner's step daughter being pregnant. Men have their friends for ''banter''. Very few men will choose a woman for her conversational skills. But women don't seem to see things the same way, they need to connect at every level. How many times do women go on a date with a guy they deem ''great'' yet turn him down because they didn't ''click'', there were no ''fireworks''.

Why do you think that is? Why the need for this perfect match? There is no word for the perfect woman in the male vocabulary. Women have plenty : knight in shining armour, prince charming...I remember an article about a study that found that men had 4 reasons not to go on a 2nd date, women had.... 800. Why?
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It's biological. A woman needs a loyal/caring/strong male to help take care of/raise a child. The male just needs a sperm depository - and they don't need one, biologically it probably makes sense to have many.
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You could have the latter two without being in a relationship, if you only want sex, why bother persuing a long term relationship? You can't expect to be with someone for the long haul and expect them to be OK with you treating them like a piece of meat. One assumes the type of men you're referring to doesn't sit with his friends in silence or wish they wouldn't talk to much or that they don't have any social life outside of their partner because socialising with other people doesn't involve sex.

healthy relationships require communication, if you struggle to even talk to the person you've commited to spending your life with, perhaps you need to ask yourself whether you're mature enough to have a relationship like that. If this is your mindset, I think probably not. If all you want from a woman is sex, go find that, don't expect a commitment from their side and not be willing to give anything back.
Because the vast majority of women want relationships and most men are not good looking/rich enough to have sex on tap? PoF had to disable the casual sex option because women were complaining about it and not even 1% of them were into it while countless numbers of men were only there for sex. Never heard a guy complain about being used for sex, most men would love it.

To make a dating site work, the site must first have viable options for people to date. In the case of Intimate Encounters, Frind said, "There are 3.3 million people who use the site every day, of those there are only 6,041 single women looking for Intimate Encounters. Of those 6,041 women, the ones with hot pictures are mostly men pretending to be women. Intimate Encounters on POF can be summed up as a bunch of horny men talking to a bunch of horny men pretending to be women."
Go to mumsnet and see how one of the most popular searches is ''husband with Asperger''. Women assume that if the guy doesn't communicate or have the same needs something is wrong with him and it couldn't be because men are different.


So why do women need relationships and communication so much more than men? Why do men forget the most basic of anniversaries while women can remember the day and hour they first had mushroom soup together?
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It's biological. A woman needs a loyal/caring/strong male to help take care of/raise a child. The male just needs a sperm depository - and they don't need one, biologically it probably makes sense to have many.
Sooooooo not true.

If we go by that pathetic logic women would be just as promiscuous as men, if not more and this is due to their multiple orgasms in a shorter period of time.
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Sooooooo not true.

If we go by that pathetic logic women would be just as promiscuous as men, if not more and this is due to their multiple orgasms in a shorter period of time.
You're forgetting the part where they carry a child for 9 months.
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By talking too much I meant nagging or endlessly blabering about her sister's neighbour's cleaner's step daughter being pregnant. Men have their friends for ''banter''. Very few men will choose a woman for her conversational skills. But women don't seem to see things the same way, they need to connect at every level. How many times do women go on a date with a guy they deem ''great'' yet turn him down because they didn't ''click'', there were no ''fireworks''.

Why do you think that is? Why the need for this perfect match? There is no word for the perfect woman in the male vocabulary. Women have plenty : knight in shining armour, prince charming...I remember an article about a study that found that men had 4 reasons not to go on a 2nd date, women had.... 800. Why?
You are in a dream world and have made men sound like utter pigs.
Very few men? I dunno where you've got these men from, but when a man actually wants a proper relationship with someone they don't want a woman about as interesting a brick wall. And if they don't want to converse and instead have sex all the time, they can easily find that elsewhere without having the burden of a 'nagging, chatty woman'. If I didn't have banter or even speak to my boyfriend about topics of our interest I highly doubt he would be with me. Nobody wants a boring partner whether you're a man or a woman.
LOOL knight in shining armour, there's no 'perfect match', I've only heard of those in fairytales mate. We're not all that deluded. I admit some women can expect quite a bit. But let's not forget that some men also have a long list of superficial expectations from women.
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You are in a dream world and have made men sound like utter pigs.
Very few men? I dunno where you've got these men from, but when a man actually wants a proper relationship with someone they don't want a woman about as interesting a brick wall. And if they don't want to converse and instead have sex all the time, they can easily find that elsewhere without having the burden of a 'nagging, chatty woman'. If I didn't have banter or even speak to my boyfriend about topics of our interest I highly doubt he would be with me. Nobody wants a boring partner whether you're a man or a woman.
LOOL knight in shining armour, there's no 'perfect match', I've only heard of those in fairytales mate. We're not all that deluded. I admit some women can expect quite a bit. But let's not forget that some men also have a long list of superficial expectations from women.
I'm just telling you that men, in general, don't have a lot of expectations and certainty don't try to micromanage every aspect of their relationships. Think about this, everything women like is somehow connected to relationships:

- movies : romantic comedies or dramas
- shows : soaps, reality TV based on relationships
- books : romance novels
- mags : who's dating who, who's divorcing, who's pregnant
- music : love songs

Guys don't give a **** about that stuff. What do most women talk about when they meet? Other people they know. Who remembers every tiny anniversary? Women. Men will often forget even the big ones. ****, even the biggest PC game for the female market is about relationships : The Sims.

So why is it that women are obsessed with relationships when men couldn't give a rat's ass most of the time?
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You're forgetting the part where they carry a child for 9 months.
Before then.

I'm dubious as to whether this "emotional gap" is actually innate and not instilled.
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I'm just telling you that men, in general, don't have a lot of expectations and certainty don't try to micromanage every aspect of their relationships. Think about this, everything women like is somehow connected to relationships:

- movies : romantic comedies or dramas
- shows : soaps, reality TV based on relationships
- books : romance novels
- mags : who's dating who, who's divorcing, who's pregnant
- music : love songs

Guys don't give a **** about that stuff. What do most women talk about when they meet? Other people they know. Who remembers every tiny anniversary? Women. Men will often forget even the big ones. ****, even the biggest PC game for the female market is about relationships : The Sims.

So why is it that women are obsessed with relationships when men couldn't give a rat's ass most of the time?
Pretty sure that's to do with socialisation and norms more than any physiological innate factor.

Look at the stigma attached with female sports for example. Especially combat sports. The video game community treats females like **** - again there's a massive stigma attached to female COD players. So on and so on. They're encouraged to be lovey-dovey all day everyday incessantly, they internalise that notion and are such because of it.
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The male just needs a sperm depository
Charming.

If that's how it is, then tbh all I need from men, as a female, is their **** to act as a warm strap on.

and they don't need one, biologically it probably makes sense to have many.
Christ, I hope you never get married.

If you do, please tell your fiancée all this so she knows what she's getting into.
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Pretty sure that's to do with socialisation and norms more than any physiological innate factor.

Look at the stigma attached with female sports for example. Especially combat sports. The video game community treats females like **** - again there's a massive stigma attached to female COD players. So on and so on. They're encouraged to be lovey-dovey all day everyday incessantly, they internalise that notion and are such because of it.
Thank you ^^
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You're forgetting the part where they carry a child for 9 months.
There's this thing called birth control, and there's also this thing called having sex while pregnant.

The guy you quoted has a point. The clit is, like, the only body part / organ whatever, the only purpose of which is to give pleasure to women.

Whereas when guys ***, it's just for baby-making purposes.

Therefore, ~*biologically*~, women should be the promiscuous ones.

Your argument is ridiculous.
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Pretty sure that's to do with socialisation and norms more than any physiological innate factor.

Look at the stigma attached with female sports for example. Especially combat sports. The video game community treats females like **** - again there's a massive stigma attached to female COD players. So on and so on. They're encouraged to be lovey-dovey all day everyday incessantly, they internalise that notion and are such because of it.
Nobody has to know what gender you are, even in online games. Without the ''attached stigma'', do you think there would be millions of young women gagging to headshot another player and teabag him? And I was talking about single player PC games. What do you think made the sims such a huge franchise? Women buyers have turned it into the 3rd biggest franchise of all time. Why don't women like simcity instead?
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