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I am considering both lancaster and manchester for my first choice Univeristy.
My problem is that lancaster is ranked high for my subject 9th best and is higher than manchester for overall rankings: 11th best.
However lancaster is not as big as manchester so there isn't as much going on, and i am unsure whether lancaster is as reputable as manchester as manchester is a main city.
Manchester is bigger and maybe more well known/reputable than lancaster as it has been established a long time. I want to go to a uni which is reputable and has good employment opportunities. The subject i applied to do is Biochemistry.
I would appreciate any advice anyone has!
My problem is that lancaster is ranked high for my subject 9th best and is higher than manchester for overall rankings: 11th best.
However lancaster is not as big as manchester so there isn't as much going on, and i am unsure whether lancaster is as reputable as manchester as manchester is a main city.
Manchester is bigger and maybe more well known/reputable than lancaster as it has been established a long time. I want to go to a uni which is reputable and has good employment opportunities. The subject i applied to do is Biochemistry.
I would appreciate any advice anyone has!
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(Original post by chloee_x)
I am considering both lancaster and manchester for my first choice Univeristy.
My problem is that lancaster is ranked high for my subject 9th best and is higher than manchester for overall rankings: 11th best.
However lancaster is not as big as manchester so there isn't as much going on, and i am unsure whether lancaster is as reputable as manchester as manchester is a main city.
Manchester is bigger and maybe more well known/reputable than lancaster as it has been established a long time. I want to go to a uni which is reputable and has good employment opportunities. The subject i applied to do is Biochemistry.
I would appreciate any advice anyone has!
I am considering both lancaster and manchester for my first choice Univeristy.
My problem is that lancaster is ranked high for my subject 9th best and is higher than manchester for overall rankings: 11th best.
However lancaster is not as big as manchester so there isn't as much going on, and i am unsure whether lancaster is as reputable as manchester as manchester is a main city.
Manchester is bigger and maybe more well known/reputable than lancaster as it has been established a long time. I want to go to a uni which is reputable and has good employment opportunities. The subject i applied to do is Biochemistry.
I would appreciate any advice anyone has!
I'd still choose Manchester as it is always in the top 3 for graduate employer targeting.
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I think you need to visit both, and then decide. I have read that a student went for Manchester as it had the better reputation (ranked first for graduate employer targeting in 2014), but ended up feeling lost as though the university was a factory for churning out degrees due to it's sheer size and mass of student body. She ended up transferring to Lancaster, where she got on better in a smaller campus collegiate setting.
I'd still choose Manchester as it is always in the top 3 for graduate employer targeting.
I think you need to visit both, and then decide. I have read that a student went for Manchester as it had the better reputation (ranked first for graduate employer targeting in 2014), but ended up feeling lost as though the university was a factory for churning out degrees due to it's sheer size and mass of student body. She ended up transferring to Lancaster, where she got on better in a smaller campus collegiate setting.
I'd still choose Manchester as it is always in the top 3 for graduate employer targeting.
Oxbridge being obvious, the next ones (in no particular order) I wouldn't have though would be Imperial, UCL, Warwick, LSE, probably Durham aswell.
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(Original post by chloee_x)
I am considering both lancaster and manchester for my first choice Univeristy.
My problem is that lancaster is ranked high for my subject 9th best and is higher than manchester for overall rankings: 11th best.
However lancaster is not as big as manchester so there isn't as much going on, and i am unsure whether lancaster is as reputable as manchester as manchester is a main city.
Manchester is bigger and maybe more well known/reputable than lancaster as it has been established a long time. I want to go to a uni which is reputable and has good employment opportunities. The subject i applied to do is Biochemistry.
I would appreciate any advice anyone has!
I am considering both lancaster and manchester for my first choice Univeristy.
My problem is that lancaster is ranked high for my subject 9th best and is higher than manchester for overall rankings: 11th best.
However lancaster is not as big as manchester so there isn't as much going on, and i am unsure whether lancaster is as reputable as manchester as manchester is a main city.
Manchester is bigger and maybe more well known/reputable than lancaster as it has been established a long time. I want to go to a uni which is reputable and has good employment opportunities. The subject i applied to do is Biochemistry.
I would appreciate any advice anyone has!
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Can I see your source for Manchester being in the top 3
Oxbridge being obvious, the next ones (in no particular order) I wouldn't have though would be Imperial, UCL, Warwick, LSE, probably Durham aswell.
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Can I see your source for Manchester being in the top 3
Oxbridge being obvious, the next ones (in no particular order) I wouldn't have though would be Imperial, UCL, Warwick, LSE, probably Durham aswell.
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Highflyers research 2014/15:-
1. Manchester
2. Nottingham
3. Warwick
4. Cambridge
5. Oxford
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Highflyers research 2014/15:-
1. Manchester
2. Nottingham
3. Warwick
4. Cambridge
5. Oxford
Highflyers research 2014/15:-
1. Manchester
2. Nottingham
3. Warwick
4. Cambridge
5. Oxford
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Wow, I guess that even though it's dropping in the league tables it's rep is still immense.
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Wow, I guess that even though it's dropping in the league tables it's rep is still immense.
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Page 33 shows the full league table.
UK league tables (Times, CUG, Guardian) are usually ignored by graduate employers. Potential university applicants seem to like them though, even though they are biased towards smaller universities.
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(Original post by Theriverboatsong)
http://www.highfliers.co.uk/download...GMReport15.pdf
Page 33 shows the full league table.
UK league tables (Times, CUG, Guardian) are usually ignored by graduate employers. Potential university applicants seem to like them though, even though they are biased towards smaller universities.
http://www.highfliers.co.uk/download...GMReport15.pdf
Page 33 shows the full league table.
UK league tables (Times, CUG, Guardian) are usually ignored by graduate employers. Potential university applicants seem to like them though, even though they are biased towards smaller universities.
All information contained in this report is believed to be correct
and unbiased, but the publisher does not accept responsibility for
any loss arising from decisions made upon this information.
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a copy of high fliers statements is attached. it says it all they do not accept responsibility for its accuracy. you have one body that claims Manchester is above oxford, Cambridge lse and imperial but 3 separate institutions advise otherwise. I know which I would prefer to trust so trust high flyers if you wish
All information contained in this report is believed to be correct
and unbiased, but the publisher does not accept responsibility for
any loss arising from decisions made upon this information.
a copy of high fliers statements is attached. it says it all they do not accept responsibility for its accuracy. you have one body that claims Manchester is above oxford, Cambridge lse and imperial but 3 separate institutions advise otherwise. I know which I would prefer to trust so trust high flyers if you wish
All information contained in this report is believed to be correct
and unbiased, but the publisher does not accept responsibility for
any loss arising from decisions made upon this information.
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Thank you for your information. I also have an offer from warwick which i am putting as my firm. I was thinking of doing a batchelors at lancaster then a masters hopefully at manchester. So are subject league tables even important or do employers not look at them?
(Original post by Theriverboatsong)
I think you need to visit both, and then decide. I have read that a student went for Manchester as it had the better reputation (ranked first for graduate employer targeting in 2014), but ended up feeling lost as though the university was a factory for churning out degrees due to it's sheer size and mass of student body. She ended up transferring to Lancaster, where she got on better in a smaller campus collegiate setting.
I'd still choose Manchester as it is always in the top 3 for graduate employer targeting.
I think you need to visit both, and then decide. I have read that a student went for Manchester as it had the better reputation (ranked first for graduate employer targeting in 2014), but ended up feeling lost as though the university was a factory for churning out degrees due to it's sheer size and mass of student body. She ended up transferring to Lancaster, where she got on better in a smaller campus collegiate setting.
I'd still choose Manchester as it is always in the top 3 for graduate employer targeting.
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Thank you for your information. I also have an offer from warwick which i am putting as my firm. I was thinking of doing a batchelors at lancaster then a masters hopefully at manchester. So are subject league tables even important or do employers not look at them?
Thank you for your information. I also have an offer from warwick which i am putting as my firm. I was thinking of doing a batchelors at lancaster then a masters hopefully at manchester. So are subject league tables even important or do employers not look at them?
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You can't really rely on subject league tables, and employers sure as hell won't read them. The best thing to do is ask people in your field which universities are strong for that subject, such as admissions tutors.
You can't really rely on subject league tables, and employers sure as hell won't read them. The best thing to do is ask people in your field which universities are strong for that subject, such as admissions tutors.
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Yeah thats a good idea. I liked leeds but it put me off it because it was 50th for biosciences... Its so hard to pick. Ive been looking at the overall reputations of unis and how good they are for employability and that. What would you say the best way to decide on what university to go to?
Yeah thats a good idea. I liked leeds but it put me off it because it was 50th for biosciences... Its so hard to pick. Ive been looking at the overall reputations of unis and how good they are for employability and that. What would you say the best way to decide on what university to go to?
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Yeah thats a good idea. I liked leeds but it put me off it because it was 50th for biosciences... Its so hard to pick. Ive been looking at the overall reputations of unis and how good they are for employability and that. What would you say the best way to decide on what university to go to?
Yeah thats a good idea. I liked leeds but it put me off it because it was 50th for biosciences... Its so hard to pick. Ive been looking at the overall reputations of unis and how good they are for employability and that. What would you say the best way to decide on what university to go to?
If you want my personal opinion, go for the poshest universities (Oxbridge, UCL, Bristol, Edinburgh, Durham at the higher end . . . York, Exeter, Royal Holloway at the lower end). They might attract the nicer people. I could be wrong though.
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If you want my personal opinion, go for the poshest universities (Oxbridge, UCL, Bristol, Edinburgh, Durham at the higher end . . . York, Exeter, Royal Holloway at the lower end).
If you want my personal opinion, go for the poshest universities (Oxbridge, UCL, Bristol, Edinburgh, Durham at the higher end . . . York, Exeter, Royal Holloway at the lower end).
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you need to go to the uni you feel most comfortable at and where the course interest you most. I would not listen to admissions tutors as they will be biased towards their own. visiting them would be a good idea if possible before deciding
you need to go to the uni you feel most comfortable at and where the course interest you most. I would not listen to admissions tutors as they will be biased towards their own. visiting them would be a good idea if possible before deciding
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I have warwick as my backup uni which i think is fairly high up? How far off is lancaster compared to say manchester and other high unis? I dont understand why is reputation is not as high as manchester... Is it perhaps because its not a major city?
and yeah i completely agree.. I just want to make sure i go to a reputable uni if you get me but then again i may not be comfortable like you said
I have warwick as my backup uni which i think is fairly high up? How far off is lancaster compared to say manchester and other high unis? I dont understand why is reputation is not as high as manchester... Is it perhaps because its not a major city?
and yeah i completely agree.. I just want to make sure i go to a reputable uni if you get me but then again i may not be comfortable like you said
Cambridge first in all
oxford second in all
lse third in 2 seventh in one
st Andrews fourth in 2 third in one
durham 5th 6th and 8th
imperial 5th 5th and 6th
warwick 8th 9th and 10th
bath 4th 7th and 8th
uc London 9th 9th and 11th
Exeter 8th 10th and 12th
surrey 6th 12th and 12th
Lancaster 10th 11th and 12th
nobody questions the top 6 are so. why would the others be any different
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I have warwick as my backup uni which i think is fairly high up? How far off is lancaster compared to say manchester and other high unis? I dont understand why is reputation is not as high as manchester... Is it perhaps because its not a major city?
and yeah i completely agree.. I just want to make sure i go to a reputable uni if you get me but then again i may not be comfortable like you said
I have warwick as my backup uni which i think is fairly high up? How far off is lancaster compared to say manchester and other high unis? I dont understand why is reputation is not as high as manchester... Is it perhaps because its not a major city?
and yeah i completely agree.. I just want to make sure i go to a reputable uni if you get me but then again i may not be comfortable like you said
League tables should be used with caution. They can give a useful insight as to how a university is performing against others, but they can also be misleading. KCL and Manchester are frequently ranked outside the top 25, and yet are World top 20 and 50 universities respectively for research according to the World rankings. Universities care much more about these than UK league tables. A sharp fall in the World rankings year on year can lead to serious implications for a university.
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Warwick is a better university than Manchester and Lancaster, and most people would put it as the firm choice. Lancaster is not a large research intensive university, and therefore is not a member of the elite Russell Group. It is still a very good university. You should visit all of them, and talk to each admissions tutor also, they aren't all just salesmen.
League tables should be used with caution. They can give a useful insight as to how a university is performing against others, but they can also be misleading. KCL and Manchester are frequently ranked outside the top 25, and yet are World top 20 and 50 universities respectively for research according to the Word rankings. Universities care much more about these than UK league tables. A sharp fall in the World rankings year on year can lead to serious implications for a university.
Warwick is a better university than Manchester and Lancaster, and most people would put it as the firm choice. Lancaster is not a large research intensive university, and therefore is not a member of the elite Russell Group. It is still a very good university. You should visit all of them, and talk to each admissions tutor also, they aren't all just salesmen.
League tables should be used with caution. They can give a useful insight as to how a university is performing against others, but they can also be misleading. KCL and Manchester are frequently ranked outside the top 25, and yet are World top 20 and 50 universities respectively for research according to the Word rankings. Universities care much more about these than UK league tables. A sharp fall in the World rankings year on year can lead to serious implications for a university.
Would recommend Warwick over both though
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A university doesn't have to be a Russel group to be good. st Andrews and Lancaster are examples. Just because a uni is RG doesn't mean it's good, for example Liverpool.
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A university doesn't have to be a Russel group to be good. st Andrews and Lancaster are examples. Just because a uni is RG doesn't mean it's good, for example Liverpool.
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you really need not worry Lancaster is extremely reputable 11th in cug 12th in sunday times and 1oth in guardian. when people say league tables don't matter it is because they don't suit them. the same 12 universities fill the top 12 places in each guide, the positions vary but they are all there.t
you really need not worry Lancaster is extremely reputable 11th in cug 12th in sunday times and 1oth in guardian. when people say league tables don't matter it is because they don't suit them. the same 12 universities fill the top 12 places in each guide, the positions vary but they are all there.t
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Warwick is a better university than Manchester and Lancaster, and most people would put it as the firm choice. Lancaster is not a large research intensive university, and therefore is not a member of the elite Russell Group. It is still a very good university. You should visit all of them, and talk to each admissions tutor also, they aren't all just salesmen. .
Warwick is a better university than Manchester and Lancaster, and most people would put it as the firm choice. Lancaster is not a large research intensive university, and therefore is not a member of the elite Russell Group. It is still a very good university. You should visit all of them, and talk to each admissions tutor also, they aren't all just salesmen. .
I had an offer from leeds but i havent been considering the univeristy because it was 49th best for biosciences so am i wrong to exclude it for this reason?
Is leeds better than lancaster?
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A university doesn't have to be a Russel group to be good. st Andrews and Lancaster are examples. Just because a uni is RG doesn't mean it's good, for example Liverpool.
Would recommend Warwick over both though
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A university doesn't have to be a Russel group to be good. st Andrews and Lancaster are examples. Just because a uni is RG doesn't mean it's good, for example Liverpool.
Would recommend Warwick over both though
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