What premier league team has the best youth academy?
In terms of players being promoted to the 1st team?
In terms of actual talent?
Who is your favourite youngster at the moment from your team's youth academy and why?
Who would you say are the top 10 youth stars in the PL atm?
In terms of actual talent?
Who is your favourite youngster at the moment from your team's youth academy and why?
Who would you say are the top 10 youth stars in the PL atm?
Southampton
Chelsea (or United, depends if you count the three of four experienced internationals theycplayed against us recently)
Lewis Baker
Chelsea (or United, depends if you count the three of four experienced internationals theycplayed against us recently)
Lewis Baker
Nobody comes close to Southampton. The aim of an academy is to get players into YOUR first team, not anyone else's. The likes of United, Chelsea & Liverpool undoubtedly produce lots of quality young talent, but they usually have to move on to realise their potential.
Has to be Southampton. Quality team, quality players.
Agree on Southampton.
Original post by tengentoppa
Agree on Southampton.
Yea, next up team is spurs.
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Southampton and Manchester United.
Thing is though, at a club like Southampton you're more likely to get into the first team than at United so you can't say it's United's fault. United and the Saints don't attract the same types of players thus making it easier for the youth in one's first team than the other.
Spurs have a good youth system too.
Thing is though, at a club like Southampton you're more likely to get into the first team than at United so you can't say it's United's fault. United and the Saints don't attract the same types of players thus making it easier for the youth in one's first team than the other.
Spurs have a good youth system too.
Spurs' academy isn't anything special. Yes it's great to see that they have a few young players in their team at present, but only Kane and Mason are regulars and who have they produced in the 20 years before that? Who's currently playing regularly in the Premier League that started out at Spurs? There aren't many. Certainly less than Villa, City, Newcastle, Everton, West Ham etc have.
Original post by scrawlx101
In terms of players being promoted to the 1st team?
Southampton
Original post by scrawlx101
In terms of actual talent?
Liverpool
Original post by scrawlx101
Who is your favourite youngster at the moment from your team's youth academy and why?
John Stones because even though he is still raw, his passing ability and positional versatility are great attributes.
Original post by scrawlx101
Who would you say are the top 10 youth stars in the PL atm?
James Ward-Prowse
Sterling
Januzaj
Zouma
Kane
Berahino
Markovic
Stones
Eriksen
Can
Original post by The_Mighty_Bush
Southampton
Liverpool
John Stones because even though he is still raw, his passing ability and positional versatility are great attributes.
James Ward-Prowse
Sterling
Januzaj
Zouma
Kane
Berahino
Markovic
Stones
Eriksen
Can
Liverpool
John Stones because even though he is still raw, his passing ability and positional versatility are great attributes.
James Ward-Prowse
Sterling
Januzaj
Zouma
Kane
Berahino
Markovic
Stones
Eriksen
Can
Very naive ignoring the 'smaller teams'. Are you a Liverpool fan by any chance?
Original post by GymLad78
Very naive ignoring the 'smaller teams'. Are you a Liverpool fan by any chance?
I know more about these teams. No, I support Everton.
In terms of productivity, Southampton.
In terms of ability, probably Liverpool, Man Utd or Chelsea.
In terms of facilities, Man City.
My favourite player in my teams (Man Utd) academy would be Andreas Periera. Looks really exciting and reads the game brilliantly, should have a big career ahead of him.
English youth academies contain masses of talent, tons of it. The problem is getting them into the first team when the attitude of English football, across the board is so averse to training and player growth.
In terms of ability, probably Liverpool, Man Utd or Chelsea.
In terms of facilities, Man City.
My favourite player in my teams (Man Utd) academy would be Andreas Periera. Looks really exciting and reads the game brilliantly, should have a big career ahead of him.
English youth academies contain masses of talent, tons of it. The problem is getting them into the first team when the attitude of English football, across the board is so averse to training and player growth.
Southampton surely.
Original post by sr90
Spurs' academy isn't anything special. Yes it's great to see that they have a few young players in their team at present, but only Kane and Mason are regulars and who have they produced in the 20 years before that? Who's currently playing regularly in the Premier League that started out at Spurs? There aren't many. Certainly less than Villa, City, Newcastle, Everton, West Ham etc have.
Bentaleb is a regular and he came through the academy, but I agree with the broad point.
How on earth are people getting the notion to list Chelsea(assuming they're not being sarcastic)? They ruin talented players careers in fact and the only fella they've had in the last 20 years is basically Terry FFS.
Liverpool not much better either for that matter recently. Can say Sterling I guess in the last 10 years but he was poached from QPR let's be honest.
Spurs are getting good results now after decades of laughable youth development. Fair play for improving.
Best recently is Southampton but the clubs that come to my mind when thinking of tradition for young players are West Ham, Arsenal, Utd.
Always felt Newcastle Utd are horrific when you think of their catchment area an that the likes of Shearer, Carrick, Colback and many other young Geordies had to go to academies up and down the country to get spotted.
Liverpool not much better either for that matter recently. Can say Sterling I guess in the last 10 years but he was poached from QPR let's be honest.
Spurs are getting good results now after decades of laughable youth development. Fair play for improving.
Best recently is Southampton but the clubs that come to my mind when thinking of tradition for young players are West Ham, Arsenal, Utd.
Always felt Newcastle Utd are horrific when you think of their catchment area an that the likes of Shearer, Carrick, Colback and many other young Geordies had to go to academies up and down the country to get spotted.
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Original post by sr90
Nobody comes close to Southampton. The aim of an academy is to get players into YOUR first team, not anyone else's. The likes of United, Chelsea & Liverpool undoubtedly produce lots of quality young talent, but they usually have to move on to realise their potential.
That's not really anything to do with how good a youth academy is, it's about decisions by the first team manager.
If Southampton got a new manager who just bought in players and sold off all their academy players then it wouldn't mean the academy had declined, just decision making in a different part of the club was different.
On the how good is the academy debate IMO it's about quality rather than quantity. You occasionally get fans on forums arguing by just listing numbers of academy products that have gone on to be first teamers, but there's nothing inherently great about producing a lot of steady eddie players that can hold their own, really it's about how many real elite players you produce.
Running an academy is like prospecting for oil, the majority of your investments will fail or have low returns, the most productive parts of your portfolio are where you will reap nearly all of your gains. So its about who 'strikes oil' with their top handful of investments.
In the early 1990s, Man Utd, Liverpool. In the later 1990s, West Ham. In the 2000s, Man City, Southampton.
Original post by Zürich
How on earth are people getting the notion to list Chelsea(assuming they're not being sarcastic)? They ruin talented players careers in fact and the only fella they've had in the last 20 years is basically Terry FFS.
Liverpool not much better either for that matter recently. Can say Sterling I guess in the last 10 years but he was poached from QPR let's be honest.
Spurs are getting good results now after decades of laughable youth development. Fair play for improving.
Best recently is Southampton but the clubs that come to my mind when thinking of tradition for young players are West Ham, Arsenal, Utd.
Always felt Newcastle Utd are horrific when you think of their catchment area an that the likes of Shearer, Carrick, Colback and many other young Geordies had to go to academies up and down the country to get spotted.
Liverpool not much better either for that matter recently. Can say Sterling I guess in the last 10 years but he was poached from QPR let's be honest.
Spurs are getting good results now after decades of laughable youth development. Fair play for improving.
Best recently is Southampton but the clubs that come to my mind when thinking of tradition for young players are West Ham, Arsenal, Utd.
Always felt Newcastle Utd are horrific when you think of their catchment area an that the likes of Shearer, Carrick, Colback and many other young Geordies had to go to academies up and down the country to get spotted.
We're talking about academies mate, so drop the strangely irrational and bordering on obsessive Chelsea hate for a second. We may not have had that many first team regulars come through from the academy, Bertrand made a good 50-ish apearances btw, doesn't mean we haven't given plenty a chance over the last few years. Is it our fault if players like Mceachren cant even get into the Wigan, Swansea and Vittesse starting line ups after being dropped?
Besides, our academy is the best in the country atm, and we didn't spend £30 million combined on two <18 year olds to leave them doing nothing in the reserves for a few seasons.
In the past twenty years the only clubs that have consistently produced outstanding players is Man Utd, West Ham and now Southampton. Liverpool have done well over that time as well.
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