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Seriously. I would just love a party that had the anti-immigration/ Euroscepticism of UKIP, but yet had a renewable energy/ anti-austerity economic policy.

That would be my DREAM party.
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You're the worst person ever.
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You're the worst person ever.
Why? Nice trolling attempt btw
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Why? Nice trolling attempt btw
No, you are.
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Ruin the economy on all fronts going?
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Seriously. I would just love a party that had the anti-immigration/ Euroscepticism of UKIP, but yet had a renewable energy/ anti-austerity economic policy.

That would be my DREAM party.
The reason there isn't is because these two views aren't really compatible. Anti-austerity is basically saying you believe "everyone should be entitled to a certain standard of living and an equal platform to start on" whereas being anti-immigration is to add to it "but not if you were born somewhere else". One is about caring about others, the other is about not caring about others... it doesn't really make sense.

That said, there are some parties in Europe that try to make the blend work, e.g. Independent Greeks, who went into coalition with Syriza in Greece. Essentially the only two things the parties agree on is anti-austerity. Independent Greeks will never be more than a coalition partner in a government though because most people will see how illogical their views are and so they will always be a minor party; they came 6th in the election with 5% of the vote.
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Sounds terrible.
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Basically sounds like forming a country of agrarian communes.

I'm game.
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Seriously. I would just love a party that had the anti-immigration/ Euroscepticism of UKIP, but yet had a renewable energy/ anti-austerity economic policy.

That would be my DREAM party.
Do these environmental policies do it for you..

- The removal of unsightly overhead power lines from beauty spots and their burial underground;
- The creation of a bulk transport tax regime that pushes supermarkets to supply more local and seasonal produce;
- The encouragement of an extensive and rapid switchover to organic and low fossil fuel farming techniques;
- The banning of the ritual slaughter of animals without pre-stunning, and the sale of such meat;
- The elimination of the unhealthy, energy intensive and cruel factory farming of livestock;
- The abolition of all “stealth taxes” and other charges on household rubbish collections.
- Develop alternative transport fuels such as bio-diesel and hydrogen;
- Develop renewable energy sources such as wave and sea currents energy, tidal and solar energy;
- Investigate the feasibility of cutting-edge, intrinsically-safe, fast-breeder nuclear stations;
- Invest in a high-speed, magnetic levitation, inter-city rail network;
- Allow the building of a new privately-funded airport on reclaimed land in the Thames estuary to reduce the pressure on, and stop the constant expansion of, the South East’s airports.
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Do these environmental policies do it for you..

- The removal of unsightly overhead power lines from beauty spots and their burial underground;
- The creation of a bulk transport tax regime that pushes supermarkets to supply more local and seasonal produce;
- The encouragement of an extensive and rapid switchover to organic and low fossil fuel farming techniques;
- The banning of the ritual slaughter of animals without pre-stunning, and the sale of such meat;
- The elimination of the unhealthy, energy intensive and cruel factory farming of livestock;
- The abolition of all “stealth taxes” and other charges on household rubbish collections.
- Develop alternative transport fuels such as bio-diesel and hydrogen;
- Develop renewable energy sources such as wave and sea currents energy, tidal and solar energy;
- Investigate the feasibility of cutting-edge, intrinsically-safe, fast-breeder nuclear stations;
- Invest in a high-speed, magnetic levitation, inter-city rail network;
- Allow the building of a new privately-funded airport on reclaimed land in the Thames estuary to reduce the pressure on, and stop the constant expansion of, the South East’s airports.
They do actually, not sure how economically viable it would be for all of them to be implemented at once, but they sound pretty darn good!
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https://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/environment
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They do actually, not sure how economically viable it would be for all of them to be implemented at once, but they sound pretty darn good!
Then in association with your views on the economy and immigration there's only one party which clearly fits your views.......

The BNP.

Yes, that is BNP policy.
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Then in association with your views on the economy and immigration there's only one party which clearly fits your views.......

The BNP.

Yes, that is BNP policy.
Right, so that immediately makes me an evil person does it? For slightly caring about the environment, and to actually quite like preserving a traditional British society?

Does anyone really want the opposite? To wreck the planet, and ensure that Britain's culture is eternally ruined...

Having read the manifesto, I don't agree with the fact they don't believe in climate change. But as I say, most of those environmental policies are rather well thought out, though a few are fairly unnecessary, i.e the Overhead Power line one.
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Right, so that immediately makes me an evil person does it? For slightly caring about the environment, and to actually quite like preserving a traditional British society?

Does anyone really want the opposite? To wreck the planet, and ensure that Britain's culture is eternally ruined...

Having read the manifesto, I don't agree with the fact they don't believe in climate change. But as I say, most of those environmental policies are rather well thought out, though a few are fairly unnecessary, i.e the Overhead Power line one.
When did i say the BNP or yourself were evil. You have views comparable to those of national socialism, your not the only one.
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When did i say the BNP or yourself were evil. You have views comparable to those of national socialism, your not the only one.
So, you seem to be implying that I'm a Nazi...

And what's your political belief, may I ask?
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So, you seem to be implying that I'm a Nazi...

And what's your political belief, may I ask?
I'm a mixture of classical liberalism and neo-conservatism.

The Nazi's are not the only national socialists that have existed or will exist.
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I'm a mixture of classical liberalism and neo-conservatism.

The Nazi's are not the only national socialists that have existed or will exist.
Fair enough.

Yeah, I'm aware that National Socialism doesn't necessarily mean Naziism. However, having read the BNP's policies, I can't say I agree with the reintroduction of the death penalty. Nor do I agree with a part-managed economies, both of which are BNP policies.
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So, you seem to be implying that I'm a Nazi...

And what's your political belief, may I ask?
It seems you're the one with the prejudice against the BNP...

The problem with the democracy in this country is that you can only vote for a party which best suits your interests, not one which matches them perfectly.
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The reason there isn't is because these two views aren't really compatible. Anti-austerity is basically saying you believe "everyone should be entitled to a certain standard of living and an equal platform to start on" whereas being anti-immigration is to add to it "but not if you were born somewhere else". One is about caring about others, the other is about not caring about others... it doesn't really make sense.

That said, there are some parties in Europe that try to make the blend work, e.g. Independent Greeks, who went into coalition with Syriza in Greece. Essentially the only two things the parties agree on is anti-austerity. Independent Greeks will never be more than a coalition partner in a government though because most people will see how illogical their views are and so they will always be a minor party; they came 6th in the election with 5% of the vote.
It worked for the Nazis and this is also more or less what the Front National do, it's perfectly doable.
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