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The Tories are losing seats to UKIP, but UKIP have next to zero chance of gaining power. UKIP, then, could help Labour win the election which would stop the EU referendum which Cameron has promised from happening. This is so funny because UKIP supporters like to blame almost everything on the EU and immigrants, which ironically could stay because of THEM.
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The Tories are losing seats to UKIP, but UKIP have next to zero chance of gaining power. UKIP, then, could help Labour win the election which would stop the EU referendum which Cameron has promised from happening. This is so funny because UKIP supporters like to blame almost everything on the EU and immigrants, which ironically could stay because of THEM.
The Tories are losing seats to UKIP, but UKIP have next to zero chance of gaining power. UKIP, then, could help Labour win the election which would stop the EU referendum which Cameron has promised from happening. This is so funny because UKIP supporters like to blame almost everything on the EU and immigrants, which ironically could stay because of THEM.
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if a majority of voters vote for the conseratives, UKIP or greens collectively (these parties want a referendum) then, if labour won't give the people what they want, then they will receive almost universal condemnation for reverting to their old authoritarian ways
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Last I looked; Labour were losing seats in the north to UKIP.
Last I looked; Labour were losing seats in the north to UKIP.
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(Original post by Barack Obama)
The Tories are losing seats to UKIP, but UKIP have next to zero chance of gaining power. UKIP, then, could help Labour win the election which would stop the EU referendum which Cameron has promised from happening. This is so funny because UKIP supporters like to blame almost everything on the EU and immigrants, which ironically could stay because of THEM.
The Tories are losing seats to UKIP, but UKIP have next to zero chance of gaining power. UKIP, then, could help Labour win the election which would stop the EU referendum which Cameron has promised from happening. This is so funny because UKIP supporters like to blame almost everything on the EU and immigrants, which ironically could stay because of THEM.
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Which seats did Labour loose to UKIP?
Which seats did Labour loose to UKIP?
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Do you trust Cameron in offering an EU referendum? Because I don't. I don't see Labour winning the election this year and we're probably going to see a Tory-UKIP coalition or just a Tory majority. I don't mind the Tories winning. They're a better party than Labour.
Do you trust Cameron in offering an EU referendum? Because I don't. I don't see Labour winning the election this year and we're probably going to see a Tory-UKIP coalition or just a Tory majority. I don't mind the Tories winning. They're a better party than Labour.
Personally, I'll be suprised if the Tories win this election. They haven't won one since 1992.
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Last I looked; Labour were losing seats in the north to UKIP.
Last I looked; Labour were losing seats in the north to UKIP.
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Do you trust Cameron in offering an EU referendum? Because I don't. I don't see Labour winning the election this year and we're probably going to see a Tory-UKIP coalition or just a Tory majority. I don't mind the Tories winning. They're a better party than Labour.
Do you trust Cameron in offering an EU referendum? Because I don't. I don't see Labour winning the election this year and we're probably going to see a Tory-UKIP coalition or just a Tory majority. I don't mind the Tories winning. They're a better party than Labour.
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I think UKIP could get up to 20 seats but will fall apart once they are in parliament and end up in factions since they are a party that are against things like the EU rather than for something so there is not enough to hold them together.
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I think UKIP could get up to 20 seats but will fall apart once they are in parliament and end up in factions since they are a party that are against things like the EU rather than for something so there is not enough to hold them together.
I think UKIP could get up to 20 seats but will fall apart once they are in parliament and end up in factions since they are a party that are against things like the EU rather than for something so there is not enough to hold them together.
The danger might be from the Tory defectors in the Commons, who have been allowed a great deal of independence since shifting to UKIP. They may try to have that culture continue after the general election.
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I don't vote UKIP, but the OPs argument is flawed.
An awful lot of people simply do not trust David Cameron on the EU. If some people vote UKIP, it puts a lot of pressure on a government to act on the EU issue. If people continue to vote Conservative because of their EU promises, the Conservatives don't have as much pressure and incentive to act than if some of their members switch their allegiance to UKIP. And without pressure from UKIP, the Conservatives could take votes for granted.
If UKIP perform well in the General election, whichever party is in power will be under pressure to act on the EU issue and will not be able to ignore it. e.g. If the Conservatives get in they'll have to do well with their negotiation and referendum plan or risk losing more votes to UKIP.
An awful lot of people simply do not trust David Cameron on the EU. If some people vote UKIP, it puts a lot of pressure on a government to act on the EU issue. If people continue to vote Conservative because of their EU promises, the Conservatives don't have as much pressure and incentive to act than if some of their members switch their allegiance to UKIP. And without pressure from UKIP, the Conservatives could take votes for granted.
If UKIP perform well in the General election, whichever party is in power will be under pressure to act on the EU issue and will not be able to ignore it. e.g. If the Conservatives get in they'll have to do well with their negotiation and referendum plan or risk losing more votes to UKIP.
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Ok.so one parliament of labour means the issue will die lolll...
ukip will grow and the momentum towards us leaving the eu will grow.
ukip will grow and the momentum towards us leaving the eu will grow.
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If UKIP want to leave the EU, why don't they campaign to leave instead of having a referendum?
If the UK has a referendum and the people decide to stay in the EU, there purpose is rendered moot.
If the UK has a referendum and the people decide to stay in the EU, there purpose is rendered moot.
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If UKIP want to leave the EU, why don't they campaign to leave instead of having a referendum?
If the UK has a referendum and the people decide to stay in the EU, there purpose is rendered moot.
If UKIP want to leave the EU, why don't they campaign to leave instead of having a referendum?
If the UK has a referendum and the people decide to stay in the EU, there purpose is rendered moot.
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I believe the conservatives should do more to spell this out to the electorate
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The Tories are losing seats to UKIP, but UKIP have next to zero chance of gaining power. UKIP, then, could help Labour win the election which would stop the EU referendum which Cameron has promised from happening. This is so funny because UKIP supporters like to blame almost everything on the EU and immigrants, which ironically could stay because of THEM.
The Tories are losing seats to UKIP, but UKIP have next to zero chance of gaining power. UKIP, then, could help Labour win the election which would stop the EU referendum which Cameron has promised from happening. This is so funny because UKIP supporters like to blame almost everything on the EU and immigrants, which ironically could stay because of THEM.
And they certainly can't get a majority government.
Conservatives = no referendum.
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