RAF Logistics Officer Phase 2 Training Watch

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Hi all, just completed my filter interview last week (successfully thankfully), however during the debrief it was mentioned that I should perhaps go and learn more about the Phase 2 training for a logistics officer. At the time I felt that I knew a good amount, though pale in comparison to my knowledge of Phase 1 training.

I've been doing my own research to find out what exactly happens during Phase 2 training, but I'm having difficulties in finding out more than I knew to begin with.

I'd previously found what I thought was a rough course outline on the RAF website, along with role description from the RAF main site which again has a small paragraph on the "Specialist Training". In addition to that I'd read a few Logistics Officers profiles on the Welbeck and RAF main site.

Since my filter I've read a few of the Logistics topics on here, but having trouble gaining more insight into Phase 2 training.

Anyone else in the process of, or having been in the process of researching the Logistics Officer Phase 2 training? I'd appreciate any pointers towards new research material, or if you'd be happy to share anything readily available that I'm missing.
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We don't know what you're missing if you don't tell us what you know.

Where is it?
How long does it last?
Rough content?
What is the training designed to do?
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Apologies for lack of depth.

Initially I was led to believe that it was a 21 week course primarily based at RAF Halton, however I've since noted the RAF main site seems to indicate that it's 18 weeks long. I'm not sure how many terms there are during Phase 2 so not sure if the difference is due to perhaps 2 weeks leave and a week for passing out? A more definitive term breakdown is one of the things I'm lacking.

From my understanding there are perhaps 4 main elements to the Logistics Officer Phase 2 training. Firstly you learn the basics of all the logistics competencies such as mobility, fuel management, hospitality, supply chain management, and management (contract management, project management, change management etc). Secondly you learn these topics from the Airmen perspective, so learning about the various Logistics Airmen roles such as caterer, mover, steward etc. Thirdly I believe there is an element wherein you learn how RAF logistics fits into the join logistics arena both in the UK and on operation. Finally all of this is put into practice with some practical training both at RAF Halton and another RAF station.

So I guess what I'm mostly lacking is a bit more of a definitive breakdown of the Phase 2 timetable, and confirmation that I'm on the right track in terms of the content.
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Not bad. You will probably not get any time off unless the course runs over block leave ie Christmas or Summer break. There aren't that many Logs Officer courses running so I doubt there would be a clash like that.
You'd not touch too much on the Movements side of things as that is a separate course at the Movements School at Brize. You do enough fuels to be competent but appreciate there is a year-long Joint Fuels Course for specialist roles. You may have other students on the course from foreign air forces who have been sent to study the RAF training. Their skills vary.
Much of the course will be taught by existing RAF Logistics Junior Officers and particularly Logistics SNCOs. Have a look at the training required for the Logistics Trades and project yourself as managing those roles - you'll be trained in the basics of managing and the requirements of each area.
You will look at Flight, Squadron, Wing and Station level responsibilities, then up into Group, RAF, then Joint and International in order to best understand the whole organization and where your responsibilities lie, You will also learn a lot of management skills and leadership training will continue. You'll be taught enough to get started as a Logs Officer, but the training really starts when you finish Phase 2 and it never stops.
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Yeah one of the things the AFCO did mention was that there was only two Logs officers courses starts this year, and that potentially I might have a wait for IOT if I'm successful at OASC in order to attend an IOT which syncs up with Logs Phase 2.

From my reading it seems that a lot of the Phase 2 Logs training is just the fundamentals and that the bulk of training (at least specialist) is carried out after Phase 2 on the job or pre-posting. I've found some rough content guides to the Officers Movement Training course and a few others on the RAF website, so I'll have a look at them and bare them in mind. As you said I'll also try to get a better insight into the various logistics trades and what they involve.

Also I hadn't really considered the Flight/Squadron etc level responsibilities so that's a weak area I'll need to go away and try do some research into.

I appreciate your reply and I think I'm feeling a lot more confident with regards to having to talk about the Logs Phase 2 training. Just need to brush up on a few things and have a look at a few other things you'd mentioned.
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I'm a Logs JO, I graduated from IOT and am on hold to start LOT. I've got very up to date info about phase 2, the branch sponsor briefed us on the latest changes a couple of weeks a go.

Phase 2 is now 16 weeks long, if you want to talk about it in depth send me a PM and I'll see what I can do.


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Hi thanks, will send you a PM.
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Hello, i appreciate this is 3 years on since your post. But i was wondering if you would still have a booklet or literature that helps explain the structure of phase 2 training for logs?I'm due to have my filter interview at the end of the month, and would love to understand the training in more detail
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(Original post by JoshJenks)
Hello, i appreciate this is 3 years on since your post. But i was wondering if you would still have a booklet or literature that helps explain the structure of phase 2 training for logs?I'm due to have my filter interview at the end of the month, and would love to understand the training in more detail
Send me your email privately Josh and I’ll see what I can get for you.
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Hello Tina,

Thank you for your reply.

I've heard from the grapevine that Phase 2 Logs is being restructured and the course presently running is the first of the 'new' structure? Is this the case? Nonetheless, i'm sure the previous literature will provide a great platform to build from,

Kind regards
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Hi Tina, Do you still have come literature?Thanks.
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