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NO BAN on halal/kosher/religious slaughter for meat says Government :)) good!!

I def think banning halal/kosher would be anti-multicultural enough to be racist as it's racially, culturally + ethnically insensitive not to respect other cultural practises, particularly when their already established here in the uk.

NEWS:: Hooray! UK ministers reject banning halal slaughter!

http://t.co/p5xCyVHlXh

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2983589/Ministers-reject-call-ban-religious-slaughter-animals-not-stunned-despite-100-000-strong-petition.html

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/world/2015/03/07/UK-ministers-reject-call-to-ban-halal-slaughter-of-animals-.html
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The government couldn't ban it if they tried.
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Original post by Abdul-Karim
The government couldn't ban it if they tried.


And how have you reached that conclusion mate?

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And how have you reached that conclusion mate?


They would piss a lot of people of, including myself, wouldn't be a smart move.
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Original post by Abdul-Karim
They would piss a lot of people of, including myself, wouldn't be a smart move.


I just read your post as insinuating some kind of backlash or consequence. It definitely wouldn't be in the government's interest and democracies tend to avoid alienating voters but what would you and a lot of people do if this happened?

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I just read your post as insinuating some kind of backlash or consequence. It definitely wouldn't be in the government's interest and democracies tend to avoid alienating voters but what would you and a lot of people do if this happened?


I don't know what others would do, I'd become a vegetarian.
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They could never ban Halal or Kosher in 21st century Britain.
Original post by Abdul-Karim
The government couldn't ban it if they tried.


Yes, they could.

Original post by Abdul-Karim
They would piss a lot of people of, including myself, wouldn't be a smart move.


If you're referring to British Muslims, who make up 4% of the population, it wouldn't be particularly damaging for them, especially when you consider all the people who oppose inhumane slaughter.

Original post by Carol R. Lawson
I def think banning halal/kosher would be anti-multicultural enough to be racist as it's racially, culturally + ethnically insensitive not to respect other cultural practises,


Harm principle. People are to be left alone when their actions do not cause harm to other sentient creatures. In this case, harm is caused to other sentient creatures beyond what is necessary to continue eating meat. It's got nothing to do with cultural insensitivity as you keep saying while ignoring any arguments to the contrary, it's got to do with prioritising over all cultural and religious practices the basic civilised values which this country upholds. The religions of men are never justification for causing unnecessary suffering to other sentient creatures.

particularly when their already established here in the uk.

The fact that slavery was 'already established' wasn't much of an argument against getting rid of it, neither is it here.

NEWS:: Hooray! UK ministers reject banning halal slaughter! http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...-animals-.html via @AlArabiya_Eng

You've provided a link to the homepage of a notorious news vendor. No content in that link matching your description.
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Female genital mutilation is a cultural practice already established in the UK, it racist to ban that? :rolleyes:

Also, your link says nothing to that effect. It still is allowed, but with any luck it won't remain so for long. The fact people are allowed to ignore animal welfare laws because of their religion is unacceptable.
It should be put to public vote.

Why should animals suffer unduly because an ancient book says so?
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Its only because of the money and industry from it, not about any multiculturalism. Muslims and jews essentially saw the animal's throat with a rusty blade
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Original post by Skip_Snip
It should be put to public vote.

Why should animals suffer unduly because an ancient book says so?


A consultative democracy is very dangerous. We elect people to make these decisions on our behalf, not for us to make the decisions and have them laying about all day.
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Original post by Dracul
Muslims and jews essentially saw the animal's throat with a rusty blade


As much as I disagree with halal slaughter, no.
Original post by Skip_Snip
It should be put to public vote.

Why should animals suffer unduly because an ancient book says so?


Because that ancient book you're referring to is the word of God.

-debunked.
Original post by Abdul-Karim
Because that ancient book you're referring to is the word of God.

-debunked.


Source?
Original post by miacat
They could never ban Halal or Kosher in 21st century Britain.


I agree. Sorry these are better links to the news artickle about the Government rejection of halal ban.....

http://t.co/p5xCyVHlXh

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-petition.html

:smile:
Original post by Carol R. Lawson
I agree. Sorry these are better links to the news artickle about the Government rejection of halal ban.....

http://t.co/p5xCyVHlXh

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-petition.html

:smile:


Very few campaigns of this nature are successful at a first attempt. I'm confident it will be successful in time.

A look at the so-called 'racists' supporting a ban on this method of slaughter:



Vets chief John Blackwell...RSPCA, the British Veterinary Association (BVA), the Farm Animal Welfare Committee, the Federation of Veterinarians of Europe and the Humane Slaughter Association
Original post by Skip_Snip
Source?


God:

“We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly Guard it (from corruption)” - [Qur'an 15:9]
Torn between my disdain for religion and my apathy for animal welfare.
Original post by miacat
A consultative democracy is very dangerous. We elect people to make these decisions on our behalf, not for us to make the decisions and have them laying about all day.


Yes that's exactly right + anyway democracy has won because over 134 856 ppl signed the ''NO BAN'' pettition!!!!! :smile:

The Government therefore made the correct + sensible decision to rule in favour of halal/kosher which is good for multicultural relations to IMO :smile:

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