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Citing from Hansard and from Halsbury's laws of England...
... how do you do it!!!
In relation to Hansard - HL and Commons - presumably there is a volume for each house?
With regard to Halsbury's laws of England - I've pulled a couple of pieces from lexis and it simply gives a "para. 639" - no volume number or title... How would I cite that?
In relation to Hansard - HL and Commons - presumably there is a volume for each house?
With regard to Halsbury's laws of England - I've pulled a couple of pieces from lexis and it simply gives a "para. 639" - no volume number or title... How would I cite that?
Hmmm, I would have thought that it maps onto the real paragraph number of a book somewhere and that the full reference was on Lexis... if not, citing webpages is OK, but Lexis is not good for this, because it requires logins etc.
Lewisy-boy
... if not, citing webpages is OK, but Lexis is not good for this, because it requires logins etc.
Actually... it's not appropriate to cite a web-reference for a publication which is published on paper. If you access a journal via Lexis or Westlaw, your reference should be to the journal itself, not a lengthy westlaw URL. The same goes for Hansard and Halsbury's - all you get is the electronic equivalent of the paper version, and the reference should be to the paper version.
A 'genuine' website should be cited as such; but you'd still need author and title, as well as date accessed, and the URL.
Hmmm.... still none the wiser - only I know I've got it wrong by citing as "Halsbury's Laws of England para. 639" - online Lexis only realyy displays "para. 639" - so I truied emailing it to myself as I know Westlaw (when emailing/printing journals) displays the citation after the express words "cite as:"
The emailed page of Halsbury's only hasd the following as the header - is this, therefore the correct citation? I'm dubious...
Halsbury's Laws of England/CONTRACT/3. FORMATION OF CONTRACT/(1) INTRODUCTION/629. In general.
The emailed page of Halsbury's only hasd the following as the header - is this, therefore the correct citation? I'm dubious...
Halsbury's Laws of England/CONTRACT/3. FORMATION OF CONTRACT/(1) INTRODUCTION/629. In general.
I doubt it... I suggest you e-mail your tutor and ask the appropriate format etc.
Yeah, but if you can't find the vol. number etc on-line, formats are unlikely to be helpful.
You got it Lewis... I've printed out the guide to citing references but it doesn't give me any clue to using Halsbury's... and when I asked the lecturer a week ago if I could quote from Halsbury's he cast a sort of surprised look and said "yes... if you want to quote from Halsbury's you can"!
This particular problem relates to the moot I'm doing on Firday, though I'm wanting to cite from Hansard in my Consitituional C/W and from Halsbury's in my Contract C/W. I might give it a re-think!!!!
In terms of the moot, I've been told I've "referenced my books wrong in my skeleton" - which I can only assume are The Oxford English Dictionary and/or Halsbury's - but finding the correct sitation is not as simple as it ought to be!
This particular problem relates to the moot I'm doing on Firday, though I'm wanting to cite from Hansard in my Consitituional C/W and from Halsbury's in my Contract C/W. I might give it a re-think!!!!
In terms of the moot, I've been told I've "referenced my books wrong in my skeleton" - which I can only assume are The Oxford English Dictionary and/or Halsbury's - but finding the correct sitation is not as simple as it ought to be!
Just use what it says reworded... and don't cite it. That way it looks impressive, and you can't be done for plagiarism.
Have been recommended a little booklet by Blackwells - "citing references"- £1.
Bought myself a copy this morning - and although much if it is available on the university portal it is a VERY handy & useful reference that covers a wealth of sources. Sadly, Halsbury's isn't one of them!
Hansard is... and I can confirm that cwtf thinks correctly (- thank you)!
Bought myself a copy this morning - and although much if it is available on the university portal it is a VERY handy & useful reference that covers a wealth of sources. Sadly, Halsbury's isn't one of them!
Hansard is... and I can confirm that cwtf thinks correctly (- thank you)!
OK... I found how to reference Halsburys I noticed it in a footnote of something I am reading for tomorrow's insolvency law exams.... shudders.
Halsbury's Laws of England, Vol3(2) (4th Ed Reissue) para. 116 at n5
is how it is cited, but I gathered that your problem was you couldn't find those numbers such as volume, still... thought it might be useful to tell you the method!
Halsbury's Laws of England, Vol3(2) (4th Ed Reissue) para. 116 at n5
is how it is cited, but I gathered that your problem was you couldn't find those numbers such as volume, still... thought it might be useful to tell you the method!
It is useful, lewis - many thanks - but you're right - for some reason (or I can't see it for looking) Lexis doesn't give the volume number (or details of the edition)... One way round it, of course, is to perhaps go to the hard copy in the learning Centre once I've found what I want through a search of the database.
Sounds like the only option - tis a bit of a beast of a work though!
Ethereal - thanks... I need to investigate this further because I'm still not seeing this on Lexis - maybe I'm accessing it in the wrong manner... I'll look into it though... I've not tried Westlaw for Halsbury's yet (Not sure if it is held in the westlaw database even)
Thanks!
Thanks!
Do Halsbury's on-line not have their own database is what I think he means... can't believe I didn't think of this!
heres how well it may help
halsburys
PROCEDURE
Halsbury’s Statutes aims to provide a comprehensive annotated record of all Acts of Parliament currently in force. Like its sister publication, Halsbury’s Laws, it is arranged in alphabetical order by subject title.
1 The main volumes (50 in total)
- each main volume contains:
• References and Abbreviations
• Tables of Statutes, Treaties, Statutory, Treaties, Statutory Instruments and Cases.
• Full text of Statutes under subject headings with annotations, which includes comprehensive cross referencing to other primary and secondary sources,
• It is possible that a main volume has been re-issued since the spine and the date of that re-issued will be indicated at the front of the volume.
2. The Current Statutes Service
Six loose leaf volumes which contain Acts published since the main volumes. If an Act is contained in one of these volumes an ‘S’ will follow the volume number in the Index reference given.
3. The Table of Statutes and General Index
The index is arranged alphabetically and by subject. The references given are to the volume number (in bold text) and page number (lighter type).
4. Annual Commulative Supplement
• The supplement records changes
5. Is it Force?
• The annual volume contains the commencement date of every Public General Act passed in the last 25 years
6. The Noter Up
• A loose leaf serviced updating the cumulative supplement and is it in force
NB These publications must be used in the following sequence to research the legislative history of an Act:
• The Table of Statutes and General Index
• Main Volume
• Annual Cumulative Supplement
• Noter-up
EXAMPLE find the meaning of Quality in the Sale of Goods Legislation:
1. Either search by TITLE or SUBJECT in the Index
(NB The volume index used refers to all volumes published as at 1 October 2002, which are indicated in the summary of titles)
A search by Title
Refers us to:
Sale of Goods Act 1979 39, 60
Sale of Goods (Amendment) Act 1994 39, 197
Sale of Goods (Amendment) Act 1994 39, 200
A search by Subject (NB Index quite difficult to use)
Refers us to:
Under Sales of Goods -
contract -
implied terms -
satisfactory quality, as to, 39, 71-2
2. Go to Main Volume Number 39:
The spine of this volume indicates it has been re-issued in 2004
Inside it states the law as at 1 October 2004
The main volume, page 81, shows that the meaning of satisfactory quality is contained in section 14(2).
3. Go to Cumulative Supplement:
The 2005 edition which is the latest available is up to date to 1st March 2005 tells us there is no change.
4. Noter-up
Also shows no change
5. Is it in force?
Does not deal with statutes before 1980.
See “commencement provisions” contained in s64 of the Act.
halsburys
PROCEDURE
Halsbury’s Statutes aims to provide a comprehensive annotated record of all Acts of Parliament currently in force. Like its sister publication, Halsbury’s Laws, it is arranged in alphabetical order by subject title.
1 The main volumes (50 in total)
- each main volume contains:
• References and Abbreviations
• Tables of Statutes, Treaties, Statutory, Treaties, Statutory Instruments and Cases.
• Full text of Statutes under subject headings with annotations, which includes comprehensive cross referencing to other primary and secondary sources,
• It is possible that a main volume has been re-issued since the spine and the date of that re-issued will be indicated at the front of the volume.
2. The Current Statutes Service
Six loose leaf volumes which contain Acts published since the main volumes. If an Act is contained in one of these volumes an ‘S’ will follow the volume number in the Index reference given.
3. The Table of Statutes and General Index
The index is arranged alphabetically and by subject. The references given are to the volume number (in bold text) and page number (lighter type).
4. Annual Commulative Supplement
• The supplement records changes
5. Is it Force?
• The annual volume contains the commencement date of every Public General Act passed in the last 25 years
6. The Noter Up
• A loose leaf serviced updating the cumulative supplement and is it in force
NB These publications must be used in the following sequence to research the legislative history of an Act:
• The Table of Statutes and General Index
• Main Volume
• Annual Cumulative Supplement
• Noter-up
EXAMPLE find the meaning of Quality in the Sale of Goods Legislation:
1. Either search by TITLE or SUBJECT in the Index
(NB The volume index used refers to all volumes published as at 1 October 2002, which are indicated in the summary of titles)
A search by Title
Refers us to:
Sale of Goods Act 1979 39, 60
Sale of Goods (Amendment) Act 1994 39, 197
Sale of Goods (Amendment) Act 1994 39, 200
A search by Subject (NB Index quite difficult to use)
Refers us to:
Under Sales of Goods -
contract -
implied terms -
satisfactory quality, as to, 39, 71-2
2. Go to Main Volume Number 39:
The spine of this volume indicates it has been re-issued in 2004
Inside it states the law as at 1 October 2004
The main volume, page 81, shows that the meaning of satisfactory quality is contained in section 14(2).
3. Go to Cumulative Supplement:
The 2005 edition which is the latest available is up to date to 1st March 2005 tells us there is no change.
4. Noter-up
Also shows no change
5. Is it in force?
Does not deal with statutes before 1980.
See “commencement provisions” contained in s64 of the Act.
Thanks Star - Hlasburys statutes is different to halsburys laws of England and my problem was essentially one of finding the proper method of citing a particular entry found via a database search... but thanks anyway - I'm sure it will help me for other purposes.
...old thread but it's still one of the first things I found in a Google search, so now I've found out the answer I figure it might help somebody:
From OSCOLA, the correct form for encyclopedias is (eg):
Halsbury’s Laws (5th edn, 2010) vol 57, para 53
...but which edition should you cite? Simple: it's published on a rolling basis, with the 5th edition being the current one (at the time of writing) - so, if you're accessing online, it is *always* 5th ed.
As Ethereal noted, the volume number is accessible via the tab on the left, which also gives you the year of publication.
So, say I want to cite the section on "implication by law" (which, as it happens, I do) - I find it on Lexis, and can immediately see that it's para 366; clicking on "Table of Contents", I can see that it's in Volume 22, which was published in 2012; I already know that the current version is 5th edition. So, I cite:
Halsbury’s Laws (5th ed., 2012) vol 22, para 366
Hope this helps
From OSCOLA, the correct form for encyclopedias is (eg):
Halsbury’s Laws (5th edn, 2010) vol 57, para 53
...but which edition should you cite? Simple: it's published on a rolling basis, with the 5th edition being the current one (at the time of writing) - so, if you're accessing online, it is *always* 5th ed.
As Ethereal noted, the volume number is accessible via the tab on the left, which also gives you the year of publication.
So, say I want to cite the section on "implication by law" (which, as it happens, I do) - I find it on Lexis, and can immediately see that it's para 366; clicking on "Table of Contents", I can see that it's in Volume 22, which was published in 2012; I already know that the current version is 5th edition. So, I cite:
Halsbury’s Laws (5th ed., 2012) vol 22, para 366
Hope this helps
(edited 6 years ago)
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