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I have about 70 GB of songs that i have downloaded, LOL should i also be watching myself! Oh well, As far as i see it they have nowhere 2 go because, even if they sue kazaa users and everyone else, people can still download music, from newsgroups, shoot if i want some music and my cousin has the fill, what is 2 stop me from having him send it via AIM, or whats to stop him from downloading them off my FTP Site? Even if they take this down . There will be 100 more 2 follow!
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too true, this also goes for the software piracy aswell (slightly relevant)
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Why don't you guys check out Kazaa Lite
http://www.kazaalite.tk/

This is Ripped Version of Kazaa.

No Spy Ware
Built in IP Blocker. For blocking Organizations Such as the RIAA
Has some Build in Privacy Protection.
I use it.. it works well find everything I need stable bit a of bandwithhog on the seaches but least the results are good
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Kazaa Lite is better than Kazaa in the fact that there is no spyware apparently, you kinda take their word for it though.

I'm running so many Spyware prevention tools on my PC at the moment - HiJack This, Spyware Blaster, Spybot Search & Destroy, Adaware.

They seem to be working.

I got HiJack This under advise, when I found I got LOP (grrr!), and on their forum together with the programme, we got rid of it.
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yeah, kazaa lite is much better, kazaa used to make my cpu hang on shut down (die to the spyware using the connection)
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They are taking 100000 people to court, all kazaa users, i donno but the cases might go to supreme court do to fact they are actualy allowed to search ur shared folders which is consider legal without a search warrent which i don't understand how, they have been recently sending out sapinas to people. They are also taking to court people who can't afford to fight them so they will win. There goal is to scare people from downloading files.
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We only had about 200 songs when we had Kazaa. When my sister heard about everyone getting sued, she went crazy and deleted it. I was so mad! She didn't even tell me she was going to cancel, I just went onto the computer and it was gone! Now I'm hearing all of these songs that I like, but I can't download any of them! Should I really be forced to by a CD and pay like almost $20 for it just because I heard one song I like? It's not fair!!! I say they should just get over it. It's not like celebrities need anymore money. They're already rich, what difference would it make if I download a song here and there.
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Originally posted by cricket
Should I really be forced to by a CD
Yes...yes you should :P

Originally posted by cricket
I say they should just get over it. It's not like celebrities need anymore money. They're already rich, what difference would it make if I download a song here and there.
But where do you draw the line? And if there's a song/album by a relatively unknown band would you buy it...or would you still download it because 'if they've released a single they must be rich!' ?

Bah!
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Where I draw the line is if there is a CD that has at least three songs on it that I like, I would by it. I wouldn't just download all three songs. I only download songs from various artists from various cd's. So in the end, it's not like I'm downloading their whole cd! Just one of their songs.
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has anyone else noticed that they might be messing with the new songs that ur tryoing to download all of me and friends songs that we try to download start off good and then get all fuzzy and u can't hear it well i've heard this on over 10 songs
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everybody is talking about music..........how about porn........they're not sueing anyone one 4 huge amounts of porn...........r they?.......not that i download huge amounts of porn anyway.............
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I sure hope they're not....
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You guys sound kinda worried. Just remember, there's nothing you can do about it know, and just forget about it, and hopefully they will to.

Phil
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Is Kazaa Lite safe from the RIAA???
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just hold a second before you all start talking about invasion of privacy, hacking and illegal downloading. how on earth would the RIA ever manage to take several million people to court? and that is several million people from across the globe, how would you ever be able to seriously round up so many people and force them to pay you money? i find the very notion ridiculous, maybe they are planning to sue the creators of kazaa but there is no way there are going to sue every single person on the planet that uses or has ever used kazaa!

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in response to that and any other similar post. you are right, there is no way they could possibly get every single person who has ever shared a file on kazaa. that is totaly rediculous. BUT, they dont need to. they are not aiming at targeting every single user, because this could never happen. all they need to do is get several thousand...maybe 10's maybe hundreds....this is very possible and equally plausible. the reality is, they will never get everyone, but do u want to take those odds? and that is their mind set, they figure the majority dont want to chance it.
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and they are right, the number of ppl on line sharing has apperently dropped 25%

update - have u been targeted?? see here

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/article.../07232003g.php

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seeing as how there are people using grokster on that list..basically no one's safe.

However, i read in an article that they were targeting only people making music files available to others, not just people who were downloading. So turn off your sharing..not a good idea.

Just thoughts, all sounds like BS to me anyway.
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Originally posted by Unregistered

in response to that and any other similar post. you are right, there is no way they could possibly get every single person who has ever shared a file on kazaa. that is totaly rediculous. BUT, they dont need to. they are not aiming at targeting every single user, because this could never happen. all they need to do is get several thousand...maybe 10's maybe hundreds....this is very possible and equally plausible. the reality is, they will never get everyone, but do u want to take those odds? and that is their mind set, they figure the majority dont want to chance it.



Ok How is it legal for them to pick and choose who their taking to court. How is it legal for them to have the ability to sue 1,000,000 people but only take 3,000 they Discriminately CHOOSE to sue. I dont see how that's allowed.
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Guys, seriously, look at the odds we're dealing with.
I went on Kazaa just now and there were 4.8 million users on. I'm guessing for the number of total -active- users altogether we are talking tens of millions. Let's put that in perspective - you have more chance of winning the jackpot on the Lotto than being sued. Heck, you probably have more chance of being killed by a falling meteorite while walking down the street (well, maybe not that one).

Even if, out of the 4.8 million users online at this moment, they decided to sue 1,000 of them, that is still a 0.0002% chance of being sued yourself - 1/5000. And who would honestly pay to sue that many people anyway? Are there even that many people worth suing to cover the legal costs of bringing them all to court?

I'm not a betting man, but I like those odds.
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For those who dont know how the RIAA would get your name and address... it's simple. They already won a case on it. Everything on the internet is connected by your own IP Address. When you download a file from the internet or anywhere, the host needs to know what IP address to send it to otherwise it gets lost somewhere in space... actually, just gets sent somewhere else where no connection is made and the connection closes. The RIAA just recently won a case over Verizon forcing Verizon to hand over the names of people who were logged on at a certain time under a certain IP address. Even if you have Dynamic IP Addresses, the ISP can still know that you are you and what IP Addresses you have been on. Normally, it would be voiding consumer privacy to be giving out your private information to another company, but because of the Digital Copyright Law in 1996 which is made to further prevent breaking copyrights and releasing copyright material freely. So far, the RIAA is releasing bots, searching for copyrighted materials or "Hot Songs" and anyone that they are able to download from gets their IP address copied down and put into a database. Once more court cases are won, which is probable because they won one similar case which gives them a bit of a advantage on other cases with different ISPs, they may start sending out letters or whatnot. As of right now, they cant do much besides look for the certain Verizon users that were caught. I wouldnt tell people to worry about it, because the RIAA does not have enough bots to monitor all songs and seeing many copies of one song on Kazaa, it just isn't likely, but if it starts to become more likely meaning they employ more bots to their network, then there may be a bigger risk.

K++ for a fact does block the RIAA IP addresses due to their net guardian or whatever that blocks bad IP ranges being not personal users. RIAA IP Addresses are specifically different than home and corporate users and they must be because due to law, they must be able to identify themselves. Though they make use new IP addresses and conceal it by not releasing the information, the new program in K++ knows what their search pattern is and blocks the range. K++ also had the hide files feature meaning if they were looking for the big downloaders and wanted to check your files they couldnt. Also K++ also blocks port 1180 which is the Kazaa port for connecting to the server. You can still connect to the server to share files, but no one else can connect to you through the port connected to the server. Say the RIAA wanted to hack the connection between you and the Kazaa server. K++ now blocks that action.
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