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Just bumping this thread

Any current or recent students to give any views on this course?

What a levels and grades do the students tend to have ?
Reply 2
Hey,

I studied this course and if you want my advice DO NOT study it with the University of Sheffield

1. majority of the students end up jobless as the degree isn't worth anything. The course has actually been established for those unable to get onto undergraduate nursing. They expect you to move onto their PgDip Adult Nursing afterwards
2. the vibe and attitude of the staff within the department is disgusting. In fact they treat students like dogs and if you try and fight for your rights you will be suspended. Most students leave within the 1st year
3. they're unorganised and it is obvious that the department is struggling, so they will certainly leave you fending for yourself.

I am a graduate and I truly believe I have wasted 3 years of my life and accumulated over £30,000 debt. I am certainly not one to regret something but this was truly a waste of my time.

If you require in depth answers, just let me know :smile:
Original post by -Mona-
Hey,

I studied this course and if you want my advice DO NOT study it with the University of Sheffield

1. majority of the students end up jobless as the degree isn't worth anything. The course has actually been established for those unable to get onto undergraduate nursing. They expect you to move onto their PgDip Adult Nursing afterwards
2. the vibe and attitude of the staff within the department is disgusting. In fact they treat students like dogs and if you try and fight for your rights you will be suspended. Most students leave within the 1st year
3. they're unorganised and it is obvious that the department is struggling, so they will certainly leave you fending for yourself.

I am a graduate and I truly believe I have wasted 3 years of my life and accumulated over £30,000 debt. I am certainly not one to regret something but this was truly a waste of my time.

If you require in depth answers, just let me know :smile:


Thanks for your reply Mona

I am sorry you didn't have a good time on the course and regret it. I am surprise you say it is like a pre-nursing course as the a level requirements are abb. What were the typical grades of the students on this course? It is also at Sheffield uni which is still a highly regarded Russell group uni.
Original post by Palace_Eagle
Just bumping this thread

Any current or recent students to give any views on this course?

What a levels and grades do the students tend to have ?


Hello, just come across this thread and thought I'd leave a reply:smile:. I attended an Open Campus Day at the University of Sheffield and met the course leader and some of their current students. The impression I got was really positive and they answered all my questions and they seemed really lovely. I believe the course is designed for those who want to work within health care but not sure what speciality to specialise in. I spoke to some of the students there and some have decided to go into nursing, some into radiography, physiology and one student I spoke to was still undecided: so it was a real mixed bag.

I plan on starting in September but after reading your comment as a graduate I am worried now! :s-smilie:Did you feel unsupported? And do you know how your classmates felt about the course? Thanks!
Reply 5
A failing department will certainly not show its flaws, and just because the university is part of the Russels Group that does not mean that the department performs exceptionally.

ABB may be the requirements but there are some exceptions. For instance, in my intake there were many mature students with Access Diplomas as the highest form of education.

The programme leader is brilliant and will try and support you as much as he can; however, that is all the support you will get. They'll indeed take it easy on you in year 1 but don't expect to much.

Every single one of us felt the same and the year that graduated after us are even more furious with the department. Thus, it is only getting worse year on year. In fact, by the end of year 3 only 1/3 (if lucky 2/4) graduate. So, ask yourself what do you truly want to do (career wise) and is this course going to help?

I don't want to put any of you off the whole aspect of going to university, I shared my experience with you all because I want every single one of you to be prepared and to choose well.

My advice:
- Speak to current year 1, 2 & 3 OUTSIDE university premises to gain a real understanding of how the current students feel because most of them will not tell you the disappointing factors while members of staff are present. Also bear in mind that these students at open days are paid to be there; thus, to some extent their 'opinion' is biased. In fact any student present at any event is paid on a hourly basis.
- Join a union or an organisation that will support you if something goes wrong
- Never raise a complaint and dissatisfaction with the department or the university itself. Consult a professional outside the university premises because once you raise your concerns you'll be immediately disliked by members of staff
Original post by -Mona-
A failing department will certainly not show its flaws, and just because the university is part of the Russels Group that does not mean that the department performs exceptionally.

ABB may be the requirements but there are some exceptions. For instance, in my intake there were many mature students with Access Diplomas as the highest form of education.

The programme leader is brilliant and will try and support you as much as he can; however, that is all the support you will get. They'll indeed take it easy on you in year 1 but don't expect to much.

Every single one of us felt the same and the year that graduated after us are even more furious with the department. Thus, it is only getting worse year on year. In fact, by the end of year 3 only 1/3 (if lucky 2/4) graduate. So, ask yourself what do you truly want to do (career wise) and is this course going to help?

I don't want to put any of you off the whole aspect of going to university, I shared my experience with you all because I want every single one of you to be prepared and to choose well.

My advice:
- Speak to current year 1, 2 & 3 OUTSIDE university premises to gain a real understanding of how the current students feel because most of them will not tell you the disappointing factors while members of staff are present. Also bear in mind that these students at open days are paid to be there; thus, to some extent their 'opinion' is biased. In fact any student present at any event is paid on a hourly basis.
- Join a union or an organisation that will support you if something goes wrong
- Never raise a complaint and dissatisfaction with the department or the university itself. Consult a professional outside the university premises because once you raise your concerns you'll be immediately disliked by members of staff


I am sorry to hear you didn't have a good experience. Are you able to provide any details of what happened? Thank you.
Reply 7
Original post by Countrygirl4
I am sorry to hear you didn't have a good experience. Are you able to provide any details of what happened? Thank you.


We were left fending for ourselves, unfair marking schemes with our work and no time management among the school. As students we thought we had rights but it was made clear that we do not. In fact, some students are even barred from seeing certain members of staff, only because they challenged them by questioning their unethical practices. Staff are rude and pretty much unproffesional.

Another student has been issued with a notice and has been advised not to contact a particular member of staff. All she did was stand up for rights in a normal manner. In another case a student was suspended, another marked down significantly and another student accused of theft when they weren't even there. I could go on and on with what has happened so ask to speak to current students (especially year 3) outside the university premises and ask them everything.
Original post by -Mona-
We were left fending for ourselves, unfair marking schemes with our work and no time management among the school. As students we thought we had rights but it was made clear that we do not. In fact, some students are even barred from seeing certain members of staff, only because they challenged them by questioning their unethical practices. Staff are rude and pretty much unproffesional.

Another student has been issued with a notice and has been advised not to contact a particular member of staff. All she did was stand up for rights in a normal manner. In another case a student was suspended, another marked down significantly and another student accused of theft when they weren't even there. I could go on and on with what has happened so ask to speak to current students (especially year 3) outside the university premises and ask them everything.


This is only your side of the story, and it is unfair on the University not to allow them an opportunity to comment.

@The University of Sheffield


I'm tagging you in here to alert you to this thread's existence - I understand you may be limited in how much you might wish to comment on this individual student's experience. :smile:
(edited 6 years ago)
Good morning

Thanks to the TSR Support Team for flagging this discussion - with apologies that it’s taken us a few days to respond. From the conversation so far, it sounds like comments are covering the BMEdSci (Hons) Health and Human Sciences and the PG Dip in Nursing Studies. As this thread is focused on Health and Human Sciences, we’ll focus on the BMedSci.

The Unistats website provides an impartial overview of the contact time on the course, type of assessment, the percentage of students who are in employment or further study within six months of graduating, and student satisfaction: http://unistats.direct.gov.uk/Subjects/Overview/10007157FT-B991

Support is available to students from their personal tutor and teaching staff in the department (https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/snm/undergraduate-courses/healthandhumansciences) and through the University’s Student Skills and Development Centre: https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/ssid/301

A good number of students from the BMedSci course progress to a nursing career as that’s their main motivation for taking the course. However, each year, we also have a number of students who pursue other health-related careers and you can find out more from case studies provided by 23 of the courses's graduates: https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/snm/undergraduate-courses/healthandhumansciences/studentstories

We will ask a couple of our current BMedSci students to add some posts to this forum so they can share their experience. Please be assured that whilst we are asking the students to contribute, we will not be influencing what they choose to say.

Best regards

Elizabeth
UK/EU Student Recruitment Officer
I'm a current second year (soon to be third year) student on the BMedSci Health and Human Science course. I find it a very diverse course, covering a wide variety of health care subjects. The course can be tailored to suit your own interests with optional modules, and i have found this extremely beneficial to helping me to discover where i want to go beyond this course. Knowing a good mix of students that have graduated from this degree, i can wholly assure anyone that it is not designed purely to feed people into nursing. There are many people that have gone onto paid employment in a variety of sectors, including healthcare management, the police, education and into voluntary sector roles. On the course, we find out about the many different job roles (over 200) within the NHS and the huge number of other job roles that encompass health and human sciences across many different industries in both private, public and voluntary sectors. I think that this degree is one of the most robust for providing access to many different careers. Units such as health care management, biography and narrative in palliative care, ageing health and wellbeing, (and new units being added to the degree such as anatomy of childbirth) demonstrate the breadth of specialisms available to students.
In my experience, students work extremely hard to meet the entry requirements and get onto this degree. I studied for an Access to HE course and got 45 distinctions, which equates to three A*s at A Level (the standard admission for anyone from an Access to HE course is 30 Distinctions and 15 Merits, with GCSE's of C or above for Maths, English and Science. This is equivalent to AAB at A Level). I'd also add that Access students have to complete 2 years of work in 9 months, so any students joining this course with Access qualifications will have studied hard and be committed to thier degree course. The support i have received as a mature student (and a single parent) from this department is second to none. Not only does every single member of staff go that extra mile to help and support you, but they genuinely care about you as a person. I cannot count how many times staff in the department have asked me how my son is, or if everything is going okay. The help and support in terms of academia is phenomenal, and if staff do not know somethings they will ALWAYS signpost you to someone that will help. Each year group is relatively small, meaning that you get a close knit community feel with this degree, compared to being one of hundreds studying a degree in other departments. As a mature student i was concerned that i wouldn't fit in, and that i would feel out of place, but the atmosphere created by the staff, and the inclusive way of teaching has made me feel no different to anyone else. I feel valued by staff and fellow students, and this is something the whole department is good at achieving - confidence building and inclusivity. In terms of marking and assessment, the department follows the guidelines set out by the university, and i personally have never had feedback that is less than two paragraphs for my work. The feedback is constructive, it always sets out what i have done well and what could be improved. I never have had to wait for feedback beyond results day, and any formative feedback or drafts are provided within a week of submission (which i believe is departmental policy). If you want a degree that is broad and diverse, that gives you a fantastic insight into health care delivery across the board, then this degree is perfect. You may not know exactly the job role you want when you start, but by the time you finish you will have a clear direction into a vocation that you are interested in.
Original post by JSMDouglas
I'm a current second year (soon to be third year) student on the BMedSci Health and Human Science course. I find it a very diverse course, covering a wide variety of health care subjects. The course can be tailored to suit your own interests with optional modules, and i have found this extremely beneficial to helping me to discover where i want to go beyond this course. Knowing a good mix of students that have graduated from this degree, i can wholly assure anyone that it is not designed purely to feed people into nursing. There are many people that have gone onto paid employment in a variety of sectors, including healthcare management, the police, education and into voluntary sector roles. On the course, we find out about the many different job roles (over 200) within the NHS and the huge number of other job roles that encompass health and human sciences across many different industries in both private, public and voluntary sectors. I think that this degree is one of the most robust for providing access to many different careers. Units such as health care management, biography and narrative in palliative care, ageing health and wellbeing, (and new units being added to the degree such as anatomy of childbirth) demonstrate the breadth of specialisms available to students.
In my experience, students work extremely hard to meet the entry requirements and get onto this degree. I studied for an Access to HE course and got 45 distinctions, which equates to three A*s at A Level (the standard admission for anyone from an Access to HE course is 30 Distinctions and 15 Merits, with GCSE's of C or above for Maths, English and Science. This is equivalent to AAB at A Level). I'd also add that Access students have to complete 2 years of work in 9 months, so any students joining this course with Access qualifications will have studied hard and be committed to thier degree course. The support i have received as a mature student (and a single parent) from this department is second to none. Not only does every single member of staff go that extra mile to help and support you, but they genuinely care about you as a person. I cannot count how many times staff in the department have asked me how my son is, or if everything is going okay. The help and support in terms of academia is phenomenal, and if staff do not know somethings they will ALWAYS signpost you to someone that will help. Each year group is relatively small, meaning that you get a close knit community feel with this degree, compared to being one of hundreds studying a degree in other departments. As a mature student i was concerned that i wouldn't fit in, and that i would feel out of place, but the atmosphere created by the staff, and the inclusive way of teaching has made me feel no different to anyone else. I feel valued by staff and fellow students, and this is something the whole department is good at achieving - confidence building and inclusivity. In terms of marking and assessment, the department follows the guidelines set out by the university, and i personally have never had feedback that is less than two paragraphs for my work. The feedback is constructive, it always sets out what i have done well and what could be improved. I never have had to wait for feedback beyond results day, and any formative feedback or drafts are provided within a week of submission (which i believe is departmental policy). If you want a degree that is broad and diverse, that gives you a fantastic insight into health care delivery across the board, then this degree is perfect. You may not know exactly the job role you want when you start, but by the time you finish you will have a clear direction into a vocation that you are interested in.


Thank you for posting this and well done for your hard work and achievements
Original post by JSMDouglas
I'm a current second year (soon to be third year) student on the BMedSci Health and Human Science course. I find it a very diverse course, covering a wide variety of health care subjects. The course can be tailored to suit your own interests with optional modules, and i have found this extremely beneficial to helping me to discover where i want to go beyond this course. Knowing a good mix of students that have graduated from this degree, i can wholly assure anyone that it is not designed purely to feed people into nursing. There are many people that have gone onto paid employment in a variety of sectors, including healthcare management, the police, education and into voluntary sector roles. On the course, we find out about the many different job roles (over 200) within the NHS and the huge number of other job roles that encompass health and human sciences across many different industries in both private, public and voluntary sectors. I think that this degree is one of the most robust for providing access to many different careers. Units such as health care management, biography and narrative in palliative care, ageing health and wellbeing, (and new units being added to the degree such as anatomy of childbirth) demonstrate the breadth of specialisms available to students.
In my experience, students work extremely hard to meet the entry requirements and get onto this degree. I studied for an Access to HE course and got 45 distinctions, which equates to three A*s at A Level (the standard admission for anyone from an Access to HE course is 30 Distinctions and 15 Merits, with GCSE's of C or above for Maths, English and Science. This is equivalent to AAB at A Level). I'd also add that Access students have to complete 2 years of work in 9 months, so any students joining this course with Access qualifications will have studied hard and be committed to thier degree course. The support i have received as a mature student (and a single parent) from this department is second to none. Not only does every single member of staff go that extra mile to help and support you, but they genuinely care about you as a person. I cannot count how many times staff in the department have asked me how my son is, or if everything is going okay. The help and support in terms of academia is phenomenal, and if staff do not know somethings they will ALWAYS signpost you to someone that will help. Each year group is relatively small, meaning that you get a close knit community feel with this degree, compared to being one of hundreds studying a degree in other departments. As a mature student i was concerned that i wouldn't fit in, and that i would feel out of place, but the atmosphere created by the staff, and the inclusive way of teaching has made me feel no different to anyone else. I feel valued by staff and fellow students, and this is something the whole department is good at achieving - confidence building and inclusivity. In terms of marking and assessment, the department follows the guidelines set out by the university, and i personally have never had feedback that is less than two paragraphs for my work. The feedback is constructive, it always sets out what i have done well and what could be improved. I never have had to wait for feedback beyond results day, and any formative feedback or drafts are provided within a week of submission (which i believe is departmental policy). If you want a degree that is broad and diverse, that gives you a fantastic insight into health care delivery across the board, then this degree is perfect. You may not know exactly the job role you want when you start, but by the time you finish you will have a clear direction into a vocation that you are interested in.


Thank you for sharing and well done on your achievements. :smile:
Original post by Palace_Eagle
Thank you for posting this and well done for your hard work and achievements


Have you applied to the course? :smile:
Original post by Countrygirl4
Have you applied to the course? :smile:


No it's not me actually who would be applying, it would be my daughter (in year 12) who would be applying this autumn for 2018 entry. So she is considering some different courses and I am finding some things out for her whilst she does her AS Level exams. :smile:
Reply 15
I gaduated from the bmedsci health and human sciences course last July and I am now a post graduate student nurse.

My experience is that the course is not there for people who were not able to get on an undergraduate nursing degree. I chose this pathway as I wanted to learn the background to all aspects of health in terms of policy, ethics, anatomy and physiology and various subjects in depth. The subjects taught were very interesting and allowed me to gain an in-depth understanding of a wide number of subjects, which has helped shaped me to who I am today, both in my academic writing ability, my knowledge and my confidence.

The level of support from staff was outstanding. I could ask anyone for support and advice and I would always be welcomed and given support at a high standard. Feedback from lecturers following assignments is always constructive and they support you to expand your knowledge for future assignments, which is fantastic as you build your knowledge further and develop critical thinking skills.

I studied an access to HE course (passed with distinctions) and worked extremely hard to obtain these marks in order for me to gain a place on the bmedsci course. The access course was the highest qualification I had before starting the bmedsci and it took a lot of hard work, dedication and sheer determination to get it.

The university of Sheffield is by far an excellent university, with staff being the most friendly, helpful and knowledgeable people, who want their students to achieve. Most of my cohort passed their degree with honours, myself included. I never thought I would have the ability to do so but the support I had helped me to achieve my goals. The modules teach you so much about many different aspects of health and i know the department has increased the number of students to almost double, which is an indicator of how great the course programme is and what a lovely university it is to study at.
Original post by TurnerV
I gaduated from the bmedsci health and human sciences course last July and I am now a post graduate student nurse.

My experience is that the course is not there for people who were not able to get on an undergraduate nursing degree. I chose this pathway as I wanted to learn the background to all aspects of health in terms of policy, ethics, anatomy and physiology and various subjects in depth. The subjects taught were very interesting and allowed me to gain an in-depth understanding of a wide number of subjects, which has helped shaped me to who I am today, both in my academic writing ability, my knowledge and my confidence.

The level of support from staff was outstanding. I could ask anyone for support and advice and I would always be welcomed and given support at a high standard. Feedback from lecturers following assignments is always constructive and they support you to expand your knowledge for future assignments, which is fantastic as you build your knowledge further and develop critical thinking skills.

I studied an access to HE course (passed with distinctions) and worked extremely hard to obtain these marks in order for me to gain a place on the bmedsci course. The access course was the highest qualification I had before starting the bmedsci and it took a lot of hard work, dedication and sheer determination to get it.

The university of Sheffield is by far an excellent university, with staff being the most friendly, helpful and knowledgeable people, who want their students to achieve. Most of my cohort passed their degree with honours, myself included. I never thought I would have the ability to do so but the support I had helped me to achieve my goals. The modules teach you so much about many different aspects of health and i know the department has increased the number of students to almost double, which is an indicator of how great the course programme is and what a lovely university it is to study at.


also very well done to you TurnerV and thank you for posting this

watching other students on this course on YouTube they also say how the course helped them to gain and grow in confidence and honestly as a parent that is is very moving to hear

what is the proportion of mature students to 18/19 year olds with A levels?

and local students to students from further afield?

which a levels do people tend to have and what grades?

is it identified as a nursing department course or its own course?

how much public health/ health statistics/epidemiology/research methodology is there?
Reply 17
[QUOTE="Sheffield;71912864" The="The" University="University" of="of"]Good morning

Thanks to the TSR Support Team for flagging this discussion - with apologies that it’s taken us a few days to respond. From the conversation so far, it sounds like comments are covering the BMEdSci (Hons) Health and Human Sciences and the PG Dip in Nursing Studies. As this thread is focused on Health and Human Sciences, we’ll focus on the BMedSci.

The Unistats website provides an impartial overview of the contact time on the course, type of assessment, the percentage of students who are in employment or further study within six months of graduating, and student satisfaction: http://unistats.direct.gov.uk/Subjects/Overview/10007157FT-B991

Support is available to students from their personal tutor and teaching staff in the department (https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/snm/undergraduate-courses/healthandhumansciences) and through the University’s Student Skills and Development Centre: https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/ssid/301

A good number of students from the BMedSci course progress to a nursing career as that’s their main motivation for taking the course. However, each year, we also have a number of students who pursue other health-related careers and you can find out more from case studies provided by 23 of the courses's graduates: https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/snm/undergraduate-courses/healthandhumansciences/studentstories

We will ask a couple of our current BMedSci students to add some posts to this forum so they can share their experience. Please be assured that whilst we are asking the students to contribute, we will not be influencing what they choose to say.

Best regards

Elizabeth
UK/EU Student Recruitment Officer[/QUOTE

There is evidence suggesting a student is taking the school to court...why and how will it impact the university overall?

These students that you have asked to provide prospective students with statements will obviously portray the school as a well established place of education when this isn't exactly the case.

All the best those studying now and considering to study here
Original post by Palace_Eagle
also very well done to you TurnerV and thank you for posting this

watching other students on this course on YouTube they also say how the course helped them to gain and grow in confidence and honestly as a parent that is is very moving to hear

what is the proportion of mature students to 18/19 year olds with A levels?

and local students to students from further afield?

which a levels do people tend to have and what grades?

is it identified as a nursing department course or its own course?

how much public health/ health statistics/epidemiology/research methodology is there?


Good afternoon

Many thanks for your query - I've been in touch with the course team and they've provided a very full answer to your questions! I'll share the information with you via direct message.

Best regards

Elizabeth
UK/EU Student Recruitment Officer
Reply 19
So last year, I was asked by the University to take part in a Periodic Review of the School of Nursing and Midwifery, which included my former undergraduate course (BMedSci Health and Human Sciences).
At the end of the review process I was reflecting back on all the information gathered with other members of the review team and there was a unanimous appreciation of just how hard the department works for its students. When I compared this to the other 2 reviews I had taken part in, this was even more noticeable.
This got me reflecting back on my time on the BMed Science course and realising just how much support all the students actually received. I wish I still had that same level of support now actually!!! It also got me thinking about the diversity of the students and modules choice you could choose from. We had a great mix of mature students, some international students, but we also had lots of students who had just finished A Levels and BTEC.

I went into the course thinking I wanted to do medical science but did not really know. On reflection, because the module choice was so large, I got a chance to try out new things and realised that what I really wanted to do was health management. That’s what I am doing now. Just the other day I bumped into an old class mate who is now doing dentistry. We got chatting and he told me that one of our other friends is now a manager in the NHS, and the other one has gone into public health. I am still amazed at all the different things that my old class mates have gone on to do after this course.
I think some people thought the course was just for wannabe nurses, but from all the experience I have had, it really isn’t. Looking back, I probably did not really appropriate all the great help and opportunities I had or the effort that the staff put in for students. I am just happy that I still managed to make use of some of those great opportunities and it’s because of that, I am currently doing research in an area I am genuinely passionate about....

So if the question is, is this the best course in the world? Well I don’t really know.... probably not. But if you're after a course where the staff members actually get to know your name and you as an individual, and genuinely want you to do well and give you all the tools and help you need to achieve then you can’t really go far wrong with this one. :smile:

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