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The new political compass is up for the 2015 General Election.

Just assuming that the 2010 was correct (please no arguments), would you agree with the changes?

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The BNP are not that far right economically. Ukip are right of the Tories.
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how about putting in some of the left wing fringe parties

for example: SWP, Socialist Party, CPB - where would they fit in?
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The BNP are not that far right economically.
So you'd say BNP are centralist or even possibly ever so slightly left-wing?
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how about putting in some of the left wing fringe parties

for example: SWP, Socialist Party, CPB - where would they fit in?
Just to confirm, this is from a website: http://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2015

Personally, no idea
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So you'd say BNP are centralist or even possibly ever so slightly left-wing?
Economically they support mass nationalisation, mass spending, high taxes. They are National Socialists for all intensive purposes.
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Economically they support mass nationalisation, mass spending, high taxes. They are National Socialists for all intensive purposes.
Thanks for the input and speedy reply! You remind me of a politician with that question dodging though haha
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Thanks for the input and speedy reply! You remind me of a politician with that question dodging though haha
I have been told that i give politicians answers.
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The new political compass is up for the 2015 General Election.

Just assuming that the 2010 was correct (please no arguments), would you agree with the changes?

Political Compass 2010:

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Political Compass 2015:

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The Poltical Compass has an obvious left liberal bias. UKIP aren't more authoritarian than nanny state Labour and the Greens are as authoritarian as they come, the leader has actually said to ban speech from 'climate change deniers'.
UKIP actually want to repeal many authoritarian laws such as the smoking ban and restrictions on freedom of association. I wouldn't call them libertarian but they aren't any more authoritarian than the other parties.
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Just going to say, this has been out for weeks
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The Poltical Compass has an obvious left liberal bias. UKIP aren't more authoritarian than nanny state Labour and the Greens are as authoritarian as they come, the leader has actually said to ban speech from 'climate change deniers'.
UKIP actually want to repeal many authoritarian laws such as the smoking ban and restrictions on freedom of association. I wouldn't call them libertarian but they aren't any more authoritarian than the other parties.
Well said. I'd put the Greens firmly in the authoritarian section (about halfway up it)
Also strange how the Tories are placed so very far to the right.
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The Greens are placed as left-libertarians? The heck?
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how on earth are the liberal democrats *that* libertarian?
how on earth are the liberal democrats more left of labour?
how the heck re the green party *so* libertarian yet ukip are more authoritarian than the tories?

but anyway, yeah, the political compass has a *huge* left wing bias - it asks you questions of a moral nature but then assumes that you want them *enforced* as policies - in this case, the "libertarian-authoritarian" scale is almost pointless when only about half of the questions relating to it aren't phrased as liberty-authority questions but rather "you don't like this? you must want it banned" or "you obviously want socialism if you think global poverty is bad"
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how on earth are the liberal democrats *that* libertarian?
how on earth are the liberal democrats more left of labour?
how the heck re the green party *so* libertarian yet ukip are more authoritarian than the tories?

but anyway, yeah, the political compass has a *huge* left wing bias - it asks you questions of a moral nature but then assumes that you want them *enforced* as policies - in this case, the "libertarian-authoritarian" scale is almost pointless when only about half of the questions relating to it aren't phrased as liberty-authority questions but rather "you don't like this? you must want it banned" or "you obviously want socialism if you think global poverty is bad"
It doesn't show them left of Labour...
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It doesn't show them left of Labour...
oh you're right - sorry - I think on the last one they were and because the difference between them is, again, slight, I assumed they were still to the left of them
edit: actually, what I accidentally did was look at the wrong image
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Ludicrous. Absolutely ludicrous.

This just convinces me further of the idiotic "authoritarian" dimension this thing has. It does not take into account left vs right wing authoritarianism. If you were left wing economically, and were authoritative in a non economic sense, this graph couldn't accommodate you.

If we go by it, Labour should be economically left of centre and fairly but not too much authoritarian. The Tories should be precisely where Labour is. UKIP should be in the right libertarian box. The Greens should be further left and authoritarian. The SNP are far to near the centre.


Honestly, i think whoever made this is a left wing loon who is out to make the SNP and the Greens look good while propagated this complete myth that "labour are right wing now".
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(Original post by Jammy Duel)
It doesn't show them left of Labour...
It does; only just.

EDIT: just to clarify all my comments are based on the first one.
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(Original post by KingStannis)
It does; only just.

EDIT: just to clarify all my comments are based on the first one.
The first one is 2010, ergo irrelevant
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The first one is 2010, ergo irrelevant
I reject all other versions becuase the 2010 one exists. Clearly this system does not work. Blair's government was economically centre/centre right. Are you seriously trying to tell me that Miliband's is significantly to the right of Blair's? That's bollox, I'm sorry.
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I reject all other versions becuase the 2010 one exists. Clearly this system does not work. Blair's government was economically centre/centre right. Are you seriously trying to tell me that Miliband's is significantly to the right of Blair's? That's bollox, I'm sorry.
Blair had left office by 2010...
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