Could Women Cope With The Amount Of Sexual Rejection Men Cope With ?

Yes but the implication is while you would not date someone who is richer than you, you could not also date someone who is poorer than you either, (to a significant level?).

So all those poor, nice guys who otherwise have many things going for them, well they would have no chance of dating you.

There's no shame in what you're doing. It's just that to act this way you'd have to be very discerning about who you date and how much money they have.

Yes those men who complain about hypergamy are probably self advocating: they're poor, so they want women to ignore wealth as being a factor in dating. We all have the same thinking: it would be nice if our weaknesses mattered less and our strengths mattered more.

From a woman's POV a wealthy partner makes sense: it gives her allot of flexibility if she wants to have children (maybe she wants to take time off work to raise the children), it provides security, and it indicates other good traits that a man would have, such as ambition or education, or smarts.

I think that a lot of the problem with this is that most women cannot make a snap judgement about whether they are attracted to someone. I can think that someone is pleasing to the eye, but I'd only suggest hanging out if after talking to them, they had something more about them and that they were interesting to speak to. I wouldn't just push things through because I thought they were pleasing to the eye. That isn't "enough" to warrant full attraction.

In my case a guy just stepping to me, immediately being really OTT with flirtation, I find rather disingenuous. I could have a range of horrendous personality traits and they're all over me. I don't respect that.

It's probably why I'm more likely to connect with someone based on their interests, views or politics initially.

I never specified whether it be pleasing to the eye; or pleasing overall; for that I apologize.

The above reply to you, still stands; Whether it be 'pleasing to the eye' or fully interested in the guy and his personality. Proof, the amount of threads (and real life instances) that I've seen started by females, who've fallen for the guy and his personality; asking how to go about approaching and signifying interest 'without seeming desperate'; is just yet another reason that I still stand by what I said before.

'I could have a range of horrendous personality traits and they're all over me. I don't respect that.'

True. But not giving the guy ample time to learn about these, is what's at fault here. This is because, you're playing by 'safe' rules; which is what, this entire thread is about. You would be, in that situation, playing by rules that prevent the guy from getting to know those personality traits. You do not allow the guy to get to know those, before you eject him out of the conversation. It links in with this thread, as this would be rejection. In that situation, you would be rejecting the guy before he's aware of those 'personality traits'.

Moreover, where the genders to be reversed; and you were to be rejected, in the same manner as you've just specified; you would be appalled; as you wouldn't have been given the chance to fully get to know the guy, before you were kicked out.........

Fear of rejection for men is something that must be overcome. It separates the weak from the chaff.

Equally, women should stop requiring validation from random men visa vi their appearance. Of course they should still look attractive, but they should feel attractive regardless of male opinion.

I'm not that bothered about wealth but I'm not going to put up with someone who's going to leech off me either. I believe men shouldn't put up with leeching too in return for good looking women if they don't want to perpetuate hypergamous behavior.

I've also had this mentality since around 23/24. I don't think it's anything to do with hitting a wall, it's just that it's a far better indicator of the most respectful interest if someone has a long term approach with me. That can only be determined by their attitudes and behaviours around me.

I think women could put up with that rejection. I suspect a lot of women don't ask guys out or make the first move because it's seen as desperate or something worse.

I had a friend complain that women would never talk to him, so I pointed out that I talked to him (and maybe even liked him). He retorted that he meant 'a hot woman'. Owch.

I think women could put up with that rejection. I suspect a lot of women don't ask guys out or make the first move because it's seen as desperate or something worse.

I had a friend complain that women would never talk to him, so I pointed out that I talked to him (and maybe even liked him). He retorted that he meant 'a hot woman'. Owch.

Women love male attention and validation, no idea what you are complaining about OP, at the same time, if the prospect of getting rejected by a woman is something which makes you feel afraid, you haven't lived.





That's rude and disrespectful, but his problem is sitting around waiting for what he wants to just appear in his lap. Like a lazy cat who just wants an owner to give him his food.

Your really quoting a movie that is now 15 years old. Its from a time when most of the age range on here were still in nappies.

Just shows how old i am to ahve got it lol.

Anyway can someone show me an actual link to this programme? Id really like to see it

uh no we're not
its just that there is an epidemic of sad young boys on the internet blind to their own priveledges spouting misogynistic crap like the OP.

your perspective is actually amazing.

If you look at this from an objective view.

1) study that helps women - everyone is happy to participate
2) study that helps men - everyone apart from feminists are happy to participate.

you can only conclude that the feminists that took part are extremely selfish.

I don't label myself as anything (MRA) btw lol. I'm just a normal person.

you're a bigot.
doesn't take me any qualifications to see that