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I was probably left of most of you to begin with in all honesty so makes sense. Grand Coalition on the cards for next term then?

(Just realised I never actually quit the party so I can just pop in and spy on you actually :wink2: )
If we have entered a new age of the Greens winning then we must do what is necessary for the nation.

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That's my baby Green party! How nutty would that be then, have the white cliffs of Dover been covered with green solar panels flashing up "We Love Immigrants" messages yet?
Well right now they want to molest farmers. More worryingly though is that with all that's happening in the world we've had a bigger focus on foreign policy this term and now have a defense secretary who's a pacifist and a foreign secretary who openly supports appeasement.

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Who actually leads this left-captive Liberal party anyway then? Only one I could imagine from my time doing that would be Mazzini if he ever took the reigns...
There's a leadership election right now however the social democrats have been dominant recently with MacDaddi having gone quiet. Amusingly the liberals did decide some months ago that i'm the power behind everything manipulating events and poaching people.

I could be wrong but hopes for the right probably rest with Birkenhead and for the left, Green Pink.
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The energy reforms I think could be amazingly successful. The immigration rhetoric is silly but the austerity plans are by and large sensible. There is of course a better, more socialistic way but this is a matter of politics and image as well as pure economics and ideology.
I really fail to see how freezing the price for a year, whilst not preventing rises before or afterwards or doing anything about the underlying costs, is going to achieve much. Of course, but there's so much image around I really don't know how far left he'd actually go if he was in charge of the country.
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(Original post by Rakas21)
If we have entered a new age of the Greens winning then we must do what is necessary for the nation.



Well right now they want to molest farmers. More worryingly though is that with all that's happening in the world we've had a bigger focus on foreign policy this term and now have a defense secretary who's a pacifist and a foreign secretary who openly supports appeasement.



There's a leadership election right now however the social democrats have been dominant recently with MacDaddi having gone quiet. Amusingly the liberals did decide some months ago that i'm the power behind everything manipulating events and poaching people.

I could be wrong but hopes for the right probably rest with Birkenhead and for the left, Green Pink.
There was a time you might have been rather more comfy with the Greens winning

To be fair I can't ever remember much of a pro-war side to the left here, probably just amplified with recent events I guess? Thought it might be barmier, you disappoint me

Hmmm... can I see that? Who's your current leadership puppet then Just kidding, I think it's just because you must've been active here for about half a decade now?
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MacDaddi? As in the Libertarian guy taking them in with a rabidly lefty Green party? Interesting... Any digs on the candidates?
The very one.

Nope. The Liberals are censoring all the information concerning the leadership election from us I have a few ideas but nothing concrete
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MacDaddi? As in the Libertarian guy taking them in with a rabidly lefty Green party? Interesting... Any digs on the candidates?
He moved at least a year ago. Had a Tory-Liberal-Ukip coalition (Toronto and Matthew are now Liberals, LP a Tory - everything went to crap in Ukip until last summer, the current lot are good) then an opposition coalition of the Tories and Liberals last term (we've all agreed not to have those anymore i think - even some on the left finally accepted the parties were too similar and thought it might be due to that) but the Labour-Green combination gave the Liberals only one option for government in terms of numbers.
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The very one.

Nope. The Liberals are censoring all the information concerning the leadership election from us
How, uhm, liberal of them!

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He moved at least a year ago. Had a Tory-Liberal-Ukip coalition (Toronto and Matthew are now Liberals, LP a Tory - everything went to crap in Ukip until last summer, the current lot are good) then an opposition coalition of the Tories and Liberals last term (we've all agreed not to have those anymore i think - even some on the left finally accepted the parties were too similar and thought it might be due to that) but the Labour-Green combination gave the Liberals only one option for government in terms of numbers.

I remember him moving, just didn't expect him to join up to a lefty coalition. I'm pretty sure the end of opposition coalition was before I left too, it rings a bell. I know I set up the first one but in hindsight they were a dreadful idea!
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(Original post by Saoirse:3)
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Good to have you back Saoirse how you been?
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Good to have you back Saoirse how you been?
Really awesome thanks! Glad to see your still around I definitely owe you a personal apology too for my disappearing acts when you were DL last year. How about you anyway?
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The very one.

Nope. The Liberals are censoring all the information concerning the leadership election from us I have a few ideas but nothing concrete
Can confirm that everyone you think will stand hasn't:cool:
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I really fail to see how freezing the price for a year, whilst not preventing rises before or afterwards or doing anything about the underlying costs, is going to achieve much. Of course, but there's so much image around I really don't know how far left he'd actually go if he was in charge of the country.
His instincts are further left than his actual policies i feel, probably because the right of the party (balls, Chucka, Johnson, Mandelson) are too strong. Hence the messy mix of overall centrism with a few stolen Lib Dem ideas (granted the Tories have stolen some too). The energy freeze won't have much impact since price rises are already weak or non existent at the moment.

The real interesting thing will be expectations. The Tories rebelled against Cameron repeatedly because he failed to get the majority. The question is whether the Blairites will stay in unity with him if he fails or have they already accepted that a coalition is all they can get.

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There was a time you might have been rather more comfy with the Greens winning

To be fair I can't ever remember much of a pro-war side to the left here, probably just amplified with recent events I guess? Thought it might be barmier, you disappoint me

Hmmm... can I see that? Who's your current leadership puppet then Just kidding, I think it's just because you must've been active here for about half a decade now?
No kidding. Back when i was leader one senior Green actually approached me about the prospect of a grand coalition (i aint saying who). Have to say though that the Greens until Cheese left were a force to be reckoned with in the House. Pragmatic, broad, active.. although Labour were the election threat, the Greens were the only party that could match us in the House.

That's true but there was never an appeasement attitude. Something is very wrong when the Socialists seem more willing to stand up to ISIS than the Greens.

They won't let us. God, i'm not that old. Only been here 3-4 years.
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(Original post by Saoirse:3)
Really awesome thanks! Glad to see your still around I definitely owe you a personal apology too for my disappearing acts when you were DL last year. How about you anyway?
You had said about your personal issues, so I wouldn't worry. Under the circumstances I think we did rather well, I think as a term we produced more bills/motions than any other terms? So action packed. Government went well, abolished the monarchy, I stepped up and Ray came in for Deputy. Now The Legal Eagle is Deputy and Ray's leader - also doing a very fine job.
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Can confirm that everyone you think will stand hasn't:cool:
We'll see. You can always share what you know to us if you think I'm wrong...
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His instincts are further left than his actual policies i feel, probably because the right of the party (balls, Chucka, Johnson, Mandelson) are too strong. Hence the messy mix of overall centrism with a few stolen Lib Dem ideas (granted the Tories have stolen some too). The energy freeze won't have much impact since price rises are already weak or non existent at the moment.

The real interesting thing will be expectations. The Tories rebelled against Cameron repeatedly because he failed to get the majority. The question is whether the Blairites will stay in unity with him if he fails or have they already accepted that a coalition is all they can get.



No kidding. Back when i was leader one senior Green actually approached me about the prospect of a grand coalition (i aint saying who). Have to say though that the Greens until Cheese left were a force to be reckoned with in the House. Pragmatic, broad, active.. although Labour were the election threat, the Greens were the only party that could match us in the House.

That's true but there was never an appeasement attitude. Something is very wrong when the Socialists seem more willing to stand up to ISIS than the Greens.

They won't let us. God, i'm not that old. Only been here 3-4 years.
That's the impression I'm getting too, everyone talks about the Tories but I could see a lot of Labour infighting next term myself.

! As long as that wasn't on my (brief) watch Unless you're talking about the time we opened coalition negotiations with you to try and steer you away from one of the right-wing parties so that we could drop-out last second and form a Green-Socialist coalition government.... those were the days

Hmm, I could've sworn you were here before me!
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I hate my people! Hate them! *****, the lot of them! **** :israel:
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You had said about your personal issues, so I wouldn't worry. Under the circumstances I think we did rather well, I think as a term we produced more bills/motions than any other terms? So action packed. Government went well, abolished the monarchy, I stepped up and Ray came in for Deputy. Now The Legal Eagle is Deputy and Ray's leader - also doing a very fine job.
Thanks Nicely done! The Monarchy was about the last major thing I saw here although my activity had well and truly wound down by then. Any particular reason you stepped down?
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Can confirm that everyone you think will stand hasn't:cool:
And where are you accessing information on the election?
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We'll see.
Who do you think has stood???
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What is the Conservative TSR stance towards Afganistan?

My personal opinion is that we should have a minimal presence. The main advantage of this would be the massive defence budget you could cut.
Your first post here, 29th of June 2010. I weren't far off
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Who do you think has stood???
I'll leave that to you to ponder...
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And where are you accessing information on the election?
My dear Birkenhead, when you grow up and get all big and tall you will realise that what people don't say is just as Importent as what they do:yep: it isn't hard to peice together what's happening.
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