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Scotland’s voters will decide which party forms the next government, Labour’s Scottish leader has said.

Jim Murphy launched his party’s campaign north of the border with an attack on the SNP’s claim that they will hold the balance of power.

At a rally in Glasgow the former Scottish Secretary said “only Labour is big enough and strong enough” to end David Cameron’s aims of winning a second term.

Despite assurances from the nationalists that they would not support a Tory government and were prepared to join Labour in blocking the Conservatives’ ability to run a minority government, Mr Murphy told supporters that “a vote for any other party is a vote for David Cameron and the Tories.”

He said the choice facing voters was “clear” and was between “five more years of Tory hardship – or a Scotland where working class Scots succeed.”

Labour are effectively running two campaigns in the run up to May 5. One where they need to stay in touching distance of the Conservatives as the largest party in England and Wales, and a second campaign where they can avoid a meltdown of their 40 Scottish MPs.

Mr Murphy’s message on who would decide the election, suggests a calculation by the UK Labour that if the SNP deliver the predicted wipeout of Labour MPs north of the border, Ed Miliband cannot become prime minister.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10139569.html

I think Jim Murphy could be onto something here. The last paragraph seems very telling. If the SNP take 40 SMPs from Scottish Labour, this throws the election into disarray where we'll either be forced into another Tory government, or a Labour/SNP government which I personally think would be awful.

So do you guys agree Scotland will probably be the key decider of this election?
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Yes.
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Unfortunately our next government will probably consist of Alex Salmond holding Ed Miliband hostage and doing whatever he can to stop the tories getting into government, whilst demanding even more for Scotland even though they already get more than their fair share.
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This is as true,

as Labour's immigration forecast in 2003
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Unfortunately our next government will probably consist of Alex Salmond holding Ed Miliband hostage and doing whatever he can to stop the tories getting into government, whilst demanding even more for Scotland even though they already get more than their fair share.
Yes

exactly,

it will be some sort of labour/snp coalition, of some kind

and the more we talk about it, the more we socially condition ourselves and prepare for it
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Unfortunately our next government will probably consist of Alex Salmond holding Ed Miliband hostage and doing whatever he can to stop the tories getting into government, whilst demanding even more for Scotland even though they already get more than their fair share.

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exactly,

it will be some sort of labour/snp coalition, of some kind

and the more we talk about it, the more we socially condition ourselves and prepare for it
It won't be Alex Salmond - it'll be Nicola Sturgeon. No doubt Sturgeon will give Salmond a Cabinet role if the SNP get into Government, but it'll be Sturgeon who's holding the gun to Miliband's head. And she's just as ruthless as he was, if not more so.
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Unfortunately our next government will probably consist of Alex Salmond holding Ed Miliband hostage and doing whatever he can to stop the tories getting into government, whilst demanding even more for Scotland even though they already get more than their fair share.
Alex Salmond is'nt the Leader of the SNP anymore. Nicola Sturgeon is, with Angus Robertson being the leader of the SNP in Westminster.

A poll for Labour List found that many of its members, support SNP policies. Such as abolishing the House of Lord or preventing the renewal of Trident.

Current polling suggests that Labour and the SNP could form a government with a Confidence and supply arrangement.

The 'demands' are the promises that were made on the run up to the referendum but we're never delivered in full by the Smith Comission. Such as the promise of "Home Rule", "Devo-Max" and "Damn near Federalism".

If we look at the GERS report, we can see that Scotland isn't given the full amount of tax it generates through the block grant. http://www.gov.scot/Topics/Statistic...e/Economy/GERS

If you have time you should watch: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6iuGVzhAYfE
Hes a member of Common Weal and talks from a Business Prescetive about Scotland's Economy and our place in the Union.
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