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hrm...just out of curiosity here. a lot of people at my school ask this question and im interested too.

i know that if you dont complete CAS, you wont get the diploma and this is a way you can fail...so my question is...can you fail it in any other ways?

eg.
u get a 3 or 4 for one of your subject in your final exam or something like that.
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Yes

I will quote myself saying this before:

(Original post by IB for me thread)
Yeah you can fail the IB.

Such failing conditions:

1. Really rubbish Extended Essay and TOK grades (I think its two E\'s) or not handing in an Extended Essay / Completing the TOK

2. Multiple level 2\'s at Higher Level or a 1.

3. For overall results: more than three grades of 3; or more than one grade of 3 if there is a grade of 2 at the standard level.
And before you ask: no its not an easy task failing the IB :p:
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there is of course a ridiculously long list of 'failing conditions'
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yeah there's like this whole page of failing conditions and passing conditions in the Vade Mecum. If you're caught cheating in exams/plagiarising of course you are immediately dead.
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(Original post by HMSChocolate)
yeah there's like this whole page of failing conditions and passing conditions in the Vade Mecum. If you're caught cheating in exams/plagiarising of course you are immediately dead.
Vade Mecum? :confused: What's that?
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The Vade Mecum is the IB Bible.
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I'd go as far to say they replace your bog-standard ten commandments.

It could be said that the Vade Mecum is also the book of doom to some...
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From http://www.tulsaschools.org/schools/...conditions.htm

I. The Diploma will be awarded to candidates whose total score, including any bonus points, is 24 to 27 points and does not contain any of the following Failing Conditions:
Higher Level Subjects
  • One grade of 2 on any HL exam
  • Candidate does not average 4s on all HL exams

Standard Level Subjects
  • Two or more grades of 2 on any SL exam
  • Candidate does not average 3s on all SL exams


II. The Diploma will be awarded to candidates whose total score, including any bonus points, is 28 to 45 points and does not contain any of the following Failing Conditions:
Higher Level Exams
  • Two or more grades of 2 on HL exams
  • If candidate has registered for 3 HL exams, and HL exams average less than 11 points
  • If candidate has registered for 4 HL exams, and HL exams average less than 14 points


Standard Level Exams
  • Three grades of 2 on SL exams
  • If candidate has registered for 3 SL exams, and SL exams average less than 8 points
  • If candidate has registered for 2 SL exams, and SL exams average less than 5 points


III. Failing Conditions

The Diploma cannot be awarded, whatever the total score, to candidates who have:
• Received less than 24 points, including bonus points
• Received a grade of 1 in any subject
• Extended Essay was not submitted
• Theory of Knowledge was not submitted
• CAS requirements not completed
• An “elementary” grade is awarded for both Extended Essay and TOK work
• Candidate is guilty of malpractice
• There are four or more grades of 3 or below
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What if you dont submit your internals. Like for example i am doing my Business Management Internal project. So if i dont submit the project, would that consider as failing?? And what about labs??
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for the internals, if you submit nothing then obviously you dont get a grade for it which probably leads to your failing the diploma. the weird thing is, for some things like world lit, if you just submit the cover sheet (the official orange one) with nothing in it, you still get a mark (zero obviously), thus an IB grade (1) for that assignment and it will count as a component grade towards the subject. so...
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Here ya go.

(Original post by Vade Mecum)
F10 A candidate’s work is incomplete

F10.1 No acceptable explanation

Unacceptable explanations for internally assessed work being incomplete include:
- the candidate not providing work by the internal school deadline(s)
- the candidate not completing work owing to a lack of diligence
- the candidate suffering from a short-term illness.

If a substantial part of a candidate's work for internal assessment is incomplete, reduce the mark for the whole body of work proportionately and make a note on the work to the effect that it has been marked down.

If there is no work for internal assessment, enter an F instead of a mark. An F for internal assessment will result in no grade being awarded for the subject and level concerned. Do not use a mark of 0 (zero) for candidates who have failed to submit work.
F6 Requirements for internal assessment

- Failure to submit marks for internal assessment will normally result in no grades being issued for the subject(s) and level(s) concerned.
Hence, not being able to receive the IB diploma.
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oh ok thanks for the info
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I actually have completed all my internals except my EE. The thing is that in my school, the teachers did not supervise us on how to go about with the internals. So we are suffering. They are so insane because we are having exams now and they want our EE right after the exam get over!!!!!!! i know u guys wont care about this...lol....but this is our situation....they never appreciated our work....They are just more worried about the work being done and given to them instead of appreciating the fact that the amount of effort we put ourselves into these internals. I do understand that IB is a good program and it is accepted worldwide...but it sucks in our school. And guess what our school introduced IB last year!!!!!!!....so u can imagine wat hel we are going through
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Ah the guinea pigs ... you guys should calm down. We haven't even completed most of our Internal Assessments yet and we're going at a steady pace. Like, making the EE due right after your exams seems pretty unreasonable to me seeing how you guys are spending most of your time reviewing. Oh well, I'm sure it'll be less stressful with all the IAs out of the way in a few months.
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isn't lower than 24 points on the IB a fail??
because when unis have a conditional offer of "passing the IB" it means they want you to get at least a 24.
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yeah, but to get less than 24 you'd probably have gotten more than 3s or a 2 or 1 or something, which is one of the failing conditions already.

Volatile: Ouch. I guess it sucks being the first ones to do IB. I was lucky, by the time I did IB, my school learnt the lesson of cramming internal deadlines near mock exam time so they spreaded out ours pretty well. Our internal deadlines for IAs spread from September all the way till March of IB2, which makes things (slightly) more comfortable than what they used to have, all the deadlines clumping up around Nov/Dec
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Besides getting less than 24, there are a bunch of technical conditions for not being able to obtain the diploma as I posted above earlier.

After 20-ish years of having the IB programme, we still cram our IA's in IB2 near the winter break :rolleyes:
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No i meant we are having the first semester exams......so during the exams we have to complete out EE.....this sucks badly
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yeah, I know you meant semester exams and not mocks but they're still exams. Our IB2 first semester exams are the same thing as the mock exams so we only have 1 session of internal exam in IB2 and then the external real IB exams.
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thank you guys so much for ur help~
now i understand and know more about failing IB.
ive realised a lot of the conditions mentioned above werent told to us by our teachers.
the one that my teachers always say is 'if u dont do CAS u fail ib' n that is it. hehe
special thank to o.Ob =]
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