Labour voters: society seems "fair" to me, what you moaning about?

Demand isn't just immigration though, the rise of working women and the fall in two parent families has meant more people are setting up house by themselves. People are living longer too.

So nobody in the UK has to pay the IRS tax on their UK earnings then?

Good point, well made. But it is mostly immigration.

The non-dom status allows some of the very richest people to live here and work here all their lives but because their grandfather was from Brazil they pay no tax.

I don't get that luxury, you don't and the huge majority don't. If I earnt money from arboad I would pay tax here. So too should they, Your USA example was pathetic. I don't live in the USA, I live here and pay tax here the non-doms live here but don't pay tax here. They can then pass this privilege on to their children.
It's a 200 year old, tax avoiding, sexist rule. Just abolish it.
Very few other countries have this rule and we shouldn't either.

I didn't say you lived in the US. I said you lived here. But why don't you pay money to the IRS on your UK earnings like others living in the UK?

The non-dom status allows some of the very richest people to live here and work here all their lives but because their grandfather was from Brazil they pay no tax.

I don't get that luxury, you don't and the huge majority don't. If I earnt money from arboad I would pay tax here. So too should they, Your USA example was pathetic. I don't live in the USA, I live here and pay tax here the non-doms live here but don't pay tax here.
It's a 200 year old, tax avoiding, sexist rule. Just abolish it.

You compared it to me not paying tax in the USA.
Oh look Quady surprise surprise to see you bending over backwards to support the rich not paying their tax.
They live here, work here but don't pay the same tax as we do. It's absurd.

I really do not wish to be rude but you simply do not know the rules.

This hypothetical Brazilian-decedent that is UK res non dom (RND). He pays the same tax as you or I on income and gains arising in the UK - eg his job. Did you know that?

If he has income or gains arising offshore then after 7 years if he elects to be taxed as a RBU then he pays the £30k annual TAX (!!) and after 9 years £50k pa, then the offshore income and gains is not taxed in the UK but he cannot remit it to the UK or else it IS taxed by HMRC. Did you know that?

BUT in electing to be a RBU he losses his income PA and his CGT AEA, so to make it worthwhile after all that he really must have shedloads offshore in which case he is one of the super rich b******s who we should be NAILING. But even he pays some tax and actually rather a lot of tax as he probably earns here and he certainly consumes here (ever heard of VAT??)

But your example is ignorant I am afraid... espsch the "pay no tax' bit. To pay no tax you have to be living in The Wirral.


EDIT.... and most are not Brazillians or indeed Brazilian-decedents.

You're right, they pay more tax than I do and more tax than you do.

Not had much to do with student finance have you?

Not as a percentage they don't. HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY CLAIM TO SUPPORT SNP? You're an ultra right wing, free market tax avoidance supporter.

Why should they get tax privileges not available to me or you? Why should they be able to pay no tax on money earned from abroad but I would have to?

I agree with a lot of what you say but explain again why rents are too high?

You think it's because there is not enough affordable housing?

Do you think houses are being knocked down? The number of properties in the UK housing stock has been steadily rising over the last 70 years and that includes lower value properties (eg 4 story Victorian houses turned into flats).

So if supply is rising and prices are rising then unless my rudimentary understanding of economics is mistaken, there is too much demand.

So, why is there too much demand? Population rising too fast? People too wealthy for the housing market equilibrium?

Don't blame the builders. Blame the bleeding Labour for stamping the foot on the immigration accelerator pedal and the dumb free movement EU rules.

I don't wanna get all UKIPPY here but it clearly is not a supply problem if supply has been rising, which it has. DISCUSS.

Are you actually trying to tell me that it's okay to get yourself into thousands of pounds of debt?

If I earn money from abroad I pay tax. If they earn money from abroad they don't.

Surprised you didn't argue with Teaddict recently when he said I was left wing on a thread you were on.

What percentage do they pay then?

It is available to you and I.

And they do pay tax on money earned abroad.

You seem to be on every side of every debate but always right wing when you debate me. You're wrong on this issues. You just seem to enjoy winding people up and nitpicking at minute details of arguments and you regularly purposely misinterpret someones argument and argue against a point that no one made.
You're like the tories who make up Labour's policies and then argue against them.

Tell me then, who would you prefer as PM, Miliband or Cameron?

No it isn't. If I earned money abroad I would pay tax here. If they earn money abroad they don't pay tax here. How do you and I have that privelege?

They don't pay tax abroad and they don't pay tax here?

Yup. In what way isn't it?

If I get a £70k mortgage for a house is that bad?

If I start paying top rate income tax is that bad?

Surely better than paying it upfront isn't it?

Ok, perhaps I should have phrased my question better. A mortgage for a house etc is fine if you've got a stable income, but it's different when you're going to university and you're not guaranteed a decent job. I think higher education, the way it is now, is unsustainable and it will be better if we have more apprenticeship schemes for certain jobs.

There are a multitude of reasons for this (another thread maybe?) but one major reason is that individual landlords and banks are greedy. There was a letter sent from an estate agent to all of its landlords in the city I live in basically telling them to raise rents because they can... This kind of greedy attitude is what makes things worse and it seems quite common amongst Conservative supporters.